E3 Flasher - Finally Shipping - But No Dual-Boot

[GaryOPA]

Some good news and some bad news today from the E3DIY team!!!

The Good news it is finally shipping today (Oct. 13th) from China, but slowly at the rate of 100 to 200 units at a time!

The Bad news those looking for total solderless solution, with the NOR clip, you will not be able to do 'Dual-Boot'!


http://www.ps3crunch.net/forum/images/news/e3shipping.jpg



E3 flasher LIMITED version start to ship on 13th. We are sorry for the delay because CLIP component is very low rate .
We had to ship small quantity like 100-200pcs every day recently, we are working hard to improve those problem.

Now you can get new slim installation manual with clip from official web.

E3 flasher limited version fixed on NOR FLASH FAT console not so good, you can know some from official web,
sure all NOR FLASH console is NO SOLDER include SLIM AND NOR FLASH FAT.

We are regret that we had to cancel some function like dual boot from E3 FLASHER LIMITED version
becuase NO solder function added(CLIP). We will develop a new flasher to add those function with few wire solder.

We take some picture for E3 FLASHER LIMITED production, you can know production status official web .


Not sure from their rough english above on how they will add 'dual-boot', but from my understanding with their tech's, it will need a few wires added that you solder, with manual and upgrade coming regarding this matter, but were as the above says 'develop a new flasher'. :mad:

In the meantime since their official site is slow as always during periods of new E3 news, attached below is all the pictures and the new Slim manual!

Official Site: http://www.E3-TECH.net

[zecoxao]

I'm a little bit confused about this... So the chip for the NOR which was supposed to be dual-boot can't be dual-boot now because it's solderless?

[Desire]

Well, now I certainly do feel scammed. What were they thinking, telling us this after buying the thing? I'm probably ok with soldering a few wires, but if I need to buy another freaking flasher, they can take a hike.

Edit: I've canceled my pre-order of the flasher. Hopefully SlickDoor will give me a refund before they ship it. These kinds of late-announcements are totally unacceptable and I'm not buying anything from these again.

[brainscanzz]

Are your focking kidding me E3? Are u a focking chinese scammer?
They focking cant do this....Some ppl was already on 3.55 and have just focking bought this flasher for focking dual boot and now 1 day before the shippment u say that's not focking possible?
WHAT THE FOCKING FOCK

108$ for a downgrade

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[gDrive]

Some good news and some bad news today from the E3DIY team!!!

The Good news it is finally shipping today (Oct. 13th) from China, but slowly at the rate of 100 to 200 units at a time!

The Bad news those looking for total solderless solution, with the NOR clip, you will not be able to do 'Dual-Boot'!


http://www.ps3crunch.net/forum/images/news/e3shipping.jpg



Not sure from their rough english above on how they will add 'dual-boot', but from my understanding with their tech's, it will need a few wires added that you solder, with manual and upgrade coming regarding this matter, but were as the above says 'develop a new flasher'. :mad:

In the meantime since their official site is slow as always during periods of new E3 news, attached below is all the pictures and the new Slim manual!

Official Site: http://www.E3-TECH.net

What the heck are these jerkoffs doing?

This is absolutely appalling beyond belief!

:angry:

[brainscanzz]

Plz gary email them whit a screen of this page when at least 20/30 ppl have read news and wrote something.
I bet everyone as first reaction will just say : "SCAM OF THE YEAR"
U even beat AdrianC and DH whit this, congratz E3

[Snaydher]

Wait a minute... the dual-boot is in E3-flasher and i need to solder some wires to get dual-boot? or NO DUAL-BOOT ISN'T in E3-Flasher?

MY PS3 ALREADY in 3.55 and I DON'T NEED DOWNGRADE, i need to play Uncharted 3!!!

[Sherk]

we're paying for dual boot not for this shit . are they kidding:mad:

[Snaydher]

"E3 flasher LIMITED version start to ship on 13th." In first page of http://www.e3-tech.net/

Common guys, lets cancel ALL orders no unit was shipping yet... these guys are kidding

[Bdub]

What a scam! Good luck to anyone that preordered this garbage. If you paid with Paypal I'd be opening a dispute ASAP

[rednekcowboy]

This is all complete BS. I would hope that they refund everyone that pre-ordered otherwise they are going to be in a world of hurt over this with Visa and Mastercard. You can't sell someone something then totally, completely change their order without telling them, are they f'n nuts??

Doesn't matter what kind of spin they put on this, it's bullshit plain and simple. Why is it that this scene attracts the sort of people that think they can go around and scam people? Let's be honest, that's exactly what this is--a scam. The sold a number of units saying this would be a dual-boot unit and then 1 day before it's supposed to start shipping, they turn around and say "oh, by the way...."

Didn't they show a video dual booting?? I guess that was faked as well. I'm so fucking done with this scene, nothing but bullshit scam artists all around.

[samdrlvt]

What a bunch of grrrrr ...

Bah... i am giving up... Uncharted 3 is nearly out, so OFW here i go...

To me, PS1 games, emulatores and Multiman updates, not enough to keep me following PS3 scene. Yes, i have played backup games... me, and more 90% CFW users... so, Sony here it goes my donations to you, again!

[MacAmb]

yeah i myself maybe update it to OFW but damn Games are too much Expensive like PES 2012 here is almost about 100$ .they should cut the prize.

since this method is not providing me to play newest games then what is useful of this one or even progskeet ?

[mojo]

What a fu.. :mad:

This scene is dead guys ...

[Snaydher]

What a bunch of grrrrr ...

Bah... i am giving up... Uncharted 3 is nearly out, so OFW here i go...

To me, PS1 games, emulatores and Multiman updates, not enough to keep me following PS3 scene. Yes, i have played backup games... me, and more 90% CFW users... so, Sony here it goes my donations to you, again!

Hehehhe... I bought this shit just for Uncharted 3, but i'm not go to OFW yet...

[Digital-Spooker]

*yawn* oh? another 'the scene is dead' moment.. stuff is happening, just because you can't see it doesn't mean it isn't happening, hell no one expected duplex to crack psn games but they did, now we can re-activate purchased games where the license is out, there are other solderless solutions that will offer dualboot, chill out, and don't upgrade just yet, otherwise you'll end up with say a solution to 3.6 games, and you're sol because you upgraded or something.

[rednekcowboy]

No, the scene is not dead, just sick of asshats scamming people out of their hard earned $$$'s selling snake oil. You cannot trust anyone who is asking for money or donations in this scene whatsoever.

[damox]

lolE3

- damox

[t_jay17]

On a somewhat related note has the solderless clips come out for the progskeet board?

[master737373]

On a somewhat related note has the solderless clips come out for the progskeet board?With 360-clip, yes.

[jamesraimes]

I'm lost. This is still a nor/nand flasher. You can update to 3.72 and downgrade back to 3.55, but you might have to do the extra steps (like progskeet) right? The dual boot function was the simple aspect of flipping a switch and swapping hard drives to change firmware. Also, it sounds like you can still soldier the damn thing and get dual booting.

[Ploggy]

1 word....shenanigans.

[t_jay17]

Is there anywhere in USA that sells the 360-clip and the progskeet?

[Snaydher]

Support guys on fyyygame had no idea e3-flasher has changed your main functionality. Soo, they understood and refund my order :)

Common progskeet run, run!!

[Redblade20XX]

Oww,,, sorry to the people who pre-ordered it for the dual boot capabilities... :nonchalance:

[eberkelmans]

I'm confused... New to this whole scene...
I have a launch slim PS3... never modded... 3.56
I pre-ordered this thinking it would let me downgrade to 3.55 so I could play back ups...
Will it still do that? and if so... will I be able to play newer games? like the aforementioned Uncharted 3?
Or should I be canceling my order asap?

[jamesraimes]

I'm confused... New to this whole scene...
I have a launch slim PS3... never modded... 3.56
I pre-ordered this thinking it would let me downgrade to 3.55 so I could play back ups...
Will it still do that? and if so... will I be able to play newer games? like the aforementioned Uncharted 3?
Or should I be canceling my order asap?

All this announcement says is that you can't dual boot with the NOR clip. They've been pushing the dual boot aspect quite hard from the start, but it's will still work as a NOR flasher. There's a USB port on the cover, so I think the initial downgrade procedure will be much like progskeet. The dual booting aspect seems like it would have one firmware on the PS3's NOR chip and another on the E3 Flasher's NOR chip, so it might just be redirecting where the PS3 reads from (not sure, haven't seen much said on the topic).

If you're only concern is downgrading, then it'll likely work just fine. If you want dual booting, you'll have to go without the clip and solder. Alternatively, you can take the slightly longer approach to going back and forth between custom firmware and original firmware. It would take significantly more time compared to unplugging everything, flipping a switch, and swapping hard drives... but you'd still be able to play new games and go back to custom firmware.

[eberkelmans]

All this announcement says is that you can't dual boot with the NOR clip. They've been pushing the dual boot aspect quite hard from the start, but it's will still work as a NOR flasher. There's a USB port on the cover, so I think the initial downgrade procedure will be much like progskeet. The dual booting aspect seems like it would have one firmware on the PS3's NOR chip and another on the E3 Flasher's NOR chip, so it might just be redirecting where the PS3 reads from (not sure, haven't seen much said on the topic).

If you're only concern is downgrading, then it'll likely work just fine. If you want dual booting, you'll have to go without the clip and solder. Alternatively, you can take the slightly longer approach to going back and forth between custom firmware and original firmware. It would take significantly more time compared to unplugging everything, flipping a switch, and swapping hard drives... but you'd still be able to play new games and go back to custom firmware.

Thanks for the info... bare with me... I meant to say back ups of new games? Would they be playable? I have no intentions of ever playing/being online.

[samdrlvt]

I find if funny that the advertising banners from Lightake and FYYGame, on this site, is still annoucing the E3 Solderless Dual-Boot...

[comman]

Maybe both of them did not update the banner yet, but I found lightake (http://lightake.com/detail.do/sku.45875) already update news about it "We decide to ship by FREE DHL as some discounts, those customers who have chose this shipping method will get refund.Anyway we'll double check with E3DIY about more details and let you guys know!"

[AbuseTheElderly]

This is ridiculous, they started advertising as a dual boot chip, that's just what it was. But wait, if you preorder this chip from us we will make it solderless! The day before shipping they say "we can't make it dual boot because it's solderless." I will be getting a refund unless they drop the price to $65 max. It was intended as a dual boot option and during production (and after preorders) they changed the product to a solderless downgrader. Classic bait-n-switch!

[rednekcowboy]

I would think the right thing to do would be to send every member of crunch a free E3!! :p

[AbuseTheElderly]

What about all the hardware being shipped with the E3 Flasher that is specifically added to make dual booting easier, such as the HDD dock, Power Switch and even the switches on the front of the E3 Flasher? Seems like development is not done but they are shipping them out anyway. I would rather wait till development is done, or for those who need it for downgrading, take what they have at a $30-$40 discount without all the unnecessary hardware. Whatever happens, I just hope E3DIY makes things right. The last thing the PS3 scene needs is another scam.

[brainscanzz]

U need aniway that stupid hardware because the flasher stay on hdd bay
And i need also the flasher cuz i'm on 3.72 already....but 108$ cmon, that's scam
I can pay 108$ for a faster flasher whit software like progskeet but not for this piece of chinese crap

[cybernetic sin]

U need aniway that stupid hardware because the flasher stay on hdd bay
And i need also the flasher cuz i'm on 3.72 already....but 108$ cmon, that's scam
I can pay 108$ for a faster flasher whit software like progskeet but not for this piece of chinese crap

Remember the time when you were praising this company, acted like a total fanboy, downplaying Progskeet as a means to justify your purchase? Good Times.

[brainscanzz]

Remember the time when you were praising this company, acted like a total fanboy, downplaying Progskeet as a means to justify your purchase? Good Times.

If u read again carrefully my post about progskeet, u will notice that i never sayd "E3 flasher is better than Progskeet" i've just sayd that he will sell more cuz of nor clip....as u see progskeet still haven't nor clip.
This make me a fanboy or a dude who just want downgrade fast?
ProgSkeet is best solution since start, but till they ignore nor use what can i do if not go on chinese hands?

[Digital-Spooker]

If u read again carrefully my post about progskeet, u will notice that i never sayd "E3 flasher is better than Progskeet" i've just sayd that he will sell more cuz of nor clip....as u see progskeet still haven't nor clip.
This make me a fanboy or a dude who just want downgrade fast?
ProgSkeet is best solution since start, but till they ignore nor use what can i do if not go on chinese hands?

oh.. I don't know.. maybe.. wait? Wait until the thing is released, I did it with the days of the Dongle, that way I wouldn't buy something and not get what I paid for. Same thing applies here. Just sayin'.

[AbuseTheElderly]

Remember the time when you were praising this company, acted like a total fanboy, downplaying Progskeet as a means to justify your purchase? Good Times.

Too funny.

The hardware is not needed tho. If all it is is a downgrader, there is no need to keep the chip in the hdd bay. Simply install it, downgrade, remove it. No need for extra hardware. I do understand they put themselves in a crunch (pun) but they do need to do something about the way they are releasing it. I don't mind having to solder to get dual booting features, but if this first revision is incapable of dual booting then they need to keep their extra hardware and sell it cheaper.

I did pre order the E3 Flasher,but I am waiting to hear wether it is capable of dual booting with soldering before I cancel. I do have faith in the retailer I chose to purchase from as their customer service has always been top notch.

[brainscanzz]

we already payd the sata station also, so i think is better keep the softboard plugged in for feel scammed a bit less no ? :D
Btw nice softboard this paper one, i bet i need max 1 day for broke it

U cant w8 before cancel since they already been shipped today, it's too late, but u can always open paypal contest

[AbuseTheElderly]

Yes, I can cancel. E3DIY is sending them to the vendor and it will be shipped to me from their warehouse in New York. Also, even if I receive it I can send it back to get a refund, that is the reason I purchased it through a vendor I have dealt with before and I know they do value their customers. The only reason I would keep this without the ability to dual boot is for an easy solderless downgrade, in which case the softboard does look too flimsy to do more than a few consoles and they need to come down on the price. $95 is too much even for a solderless downgrader.

[brainscanzz]

The thing is keeping me worry is that we dont have simply idea how the device work and if is true you cant downgrade more than 1 console per device ( as i read somewhere ).
The device only erase nor and copy 3.55 bin from flasher nor to my nor? Impossible this will cause a brick
The device had a downgrade.bin image on the nor and make the whole dospieras process alone? he will dont have enough space to do all the process whit only 16 mb whitout the PC help, and this means the 2ndary nor had to be programmed again to be used again in future.
Can we access to the device via pc?Where is the software? they didnt gave 1 info about this

Edit: is so hard to include the old softboard for ppl who want to solder + dual boot on future?

[Snaydher]

Answer from e3card.china@gmail.com about using e3 to downgrade more then one console



"e3 flasher limited version no need solder
after you downgrade, you can remove e3 flasher
but it can’t use on aonther console, it can only works 1pcs ps3 at present"


I think they will save (INTENTIONALLY) PS3 ID on e3-card and block any downgrade not equal first ID :(

[AbuseTheElderly]

Thanks for sharing, definitely canceling now.

[Kush]

So instead of using the clip, if I choose to solder, will I get dual-boot function? Please answer my question and thanks!

[AbuseTheElderly]

Right now the answer to your question is not known accept by the E3DIY team. The way they are shipping them without all the facts known, I would not pre-order. My order has been canceled and refunded.

[Kush]

I don't know if I should cancel it though. Cause my PS3 is currently on 3.72. It would be better to downgrade it. And if soldering the soft board means dual boot, then I'm willing to solder.

[brainscanzz]

i decided to keep the order up , just for donate (after i downgraded ofc) at 1st dev wanna open up this hardware.

[AbuseTheElderly]

i decided to keep the order up , just for donate (after i downgraded ofc) at 1st dev wanna open up this hardware.

Good point. But the way they are releasing it is very dishonest. They should finish development first, then release it. They way they see it, they are going to release the nor flasher now, then they will release nand flasher later. They are completely double dipping!

[Digital-Spooker]

They way they see it, they are going to release the nor flasher now, then they will release nand flasher later. They are completely double dipping!

And? I see nothing wrong with that, as, unless you're going to be running a flashing business, you wont need to buy both nor and nand, unless you have both a nand console and nor console and want to swap between having both be able to do ofw/cfw.

Keep in mind the guys behind E3 are running a business.. and as such their goal is money.

[AbuseTheElderly]

And? I see nothing wrong with that, as, unless you're going to be running a flashing business, you wont need to buy both nor and nand, unless you have both a nand console and nor console and want to swap between having both be able to do ofw/cfw.

Keep in mind the guys behind E3 are running a business.. and as such their goal is money.

I understand they are a company, they rely on income to keep them going. But, the original product they were promoting was supposed to do everything their next revision is said to do. If you go to their site right now it says that it does Nand and Nor, also it says that it is solderless and dual boots. What they are doing is robbing people for their money that they spent expecting a complete "downgrade and dual boot solution" by sending them this half-developed SHIT. Then they will release the real thing later for another $100. There is a difference between a company that provides a product for a price and one that "bait and switches" in order to make money. Given the current details, that is exactly what they are doing. I'm not trying to argue with anyone, but all the sudden they are removing features left and right, I don't think it's ok.

I can't fathom how you see nothing wrong with it.

[Digital-Spooker]

I understand they are a company, they rely on income to keep them going. But, the original product they were promoting was supposed to do everything their next revision is said to do. If you go to their site right now it says that it does Nand and Nor, also it says that it is solderless and dual boots. What they are doing is robbing people for their money that they spent expecting a complete "downgrade and dual boot solution" by sending them this half-developed SHIT. Then they will release the real thing later for another $100. There is a difference between a company that provides a product for a price and one that "bait and switches" in order to make money. Given the current details, that is exactly what they are doing. I'm not trying to argue with anyone, but all the sudden they are removing features left and right, I don't think it's ok.

I can't fathom how you see nothing wrong with it.

if you see I quoted the nand/nor bit, that I see nothing wrong with. the rest of the stuff should be offered free to people who pre-ordered the original product to make it function as intended.

Perhaps they're making a specific nand flasher because it will be cheaper for everyone, also "E3 flasher limited version fixed on NOR FLASH FAT console not so good," which to me means, that any fat console that has a nor (if there are any) isn't playing well with the limited flasher. They cancelled the dual boot (from what I gather) due to production issues, that isn't really something they can control, unless they say 'Sorry we're pushing back the launch date 2 months until we can correct the problem with the clip manufacturing. I've seen it happen in other products, they run into a snafu with production and have to drop a feature last minute whille the correct the issue.

Also they aren't robbing you at all, you order online meaning you used paypal or a credit card, so what you do is you either open a dispute with paypal that it isn't what you ordered
or you do it with your credit card company, and they'll reverse the charge. I did it when I ordered a set of cables and they wouldn't come, so I disputed the charge, so the company contacted me, re-charged my card with the price (minus the cables) and then when they came in, to ensure they kept my business, and as an apology, sent me the cables anyway.

It's not as if you're fucked once it's shipped out, you CAN still halt the payment, all it takes is a little homework on your credit card company and how to go about doing that.

[brainscanzz]

whit their writing/dumping speed how much time u will need for dump a 256 mb .bin? 2 hours? Dont except a nand solution from this guys....if you got a nand console u must be completely retarded for dont buy progskeet as flasher.

Nor user have only 16 mb to dump and also is the ONLY solderless solution atm for us....
I bet progskeet didnt release nothing nor related cuz is impossible to get full nor access whitout put some electric contacts on back of chip too, the clip isnt enough for nor, at least not enough for get full control of the memory.
Maybe now they will add an hardware on mainboard of E3 to solve the issue, but ofc i'm not going to pay for get it, they have to ship it to me for free, i dont care....i'm ready for a class action and i'm not jocking
Already got ftp + downloaded webspell , going to build a site for sign the petition + donate button for a class action.

Trust me there are rules on market, they simple cant act like this....they had to give the fix for free to all ppl who purchased E3 limited or things will become so bad for them

P.S: if u got a slim, whit the old type of softboard, the soldure is really easy and the console can still dualboot from what i've understood.
On phat nor, the old softboard wont work so u cant dualboot untill u dont make your own softboard.
Finally conclusion is only nor phat users are screwed atm, slim user can still dualboot whit their old shitty softboard

[AbuseTheElderly]

I understand where you are coming from. What I am upset about is the fact that they knew about their production run not being nand compatible because they had it manufactured with a 16MB NOR chip only. Dual boot also, they canceled that last minute because of the solderless clip, they had to know that the clip wouldn't allow dual boot. Then they said that they have to develop a new flasher that allows dual booting via soldering extra wires, the fact that they didn't put those additional solder pads on the E3 Flasher means they knowingly hindered dual booting. So anyone pre-ordering is going to get a downgrader, thats it, given the facts the price should be lowered. That is my view. I sent an email to E3 with detailed questions and I urged the person reading it to pass it on to their superior if they do not have the capability of answering them. I will keep you all informed with what they respond with. Cheers.

[brainscanzz]

Ask them also if what i wrote is true, slim user can still dualboot whit the old softboard? the one who need solder some point....i bet the answer will be yes, but they are shipping the package only whit this retarded paper softboard...they can fix the problem on 70/80% of ppl who preordered the flasher whit 1$ each or less.
So u can start say them that they can put their new hardware in his ass right now
TY

[Kush]

Hey guys, if I choose to solder instead of use the clip, will I get the dual boot feature?

[brainscanzz]

99,9% yes, looking for confirm.
But where u will find the old softboard? :D

[AbuseTheElderly]

I asked if there was any way of getting dual boot functionality out of the pre-order batch. Just awaiting a reply.

[Kush]

I contacted E3 Flasher and asked them. Also, there's a new soft board? I think it's the same one. Because if they made a new one, you wouldn't have to bend it.

[brakk3n]

Solderless? What the hell. You would think after the failure rate of the DMS EZ, Xenium and Wiiclips people would wake up and smell the rotten eggs. These "clips" come lose and I know this by experience. I wouldn't touch this with a 12" waffle iron. Of course, don't listen to me and buy one. Don't come crying when your PS3 goes a dying'.

[comman]

What the hells E3DIY doing? I'll keep my order up to see how it goes later, I hope they'll find a way to solve the problem not just give us a bad news!

[AbuseTheElderly]

I just got an email back from them. Here is what they had to say to my questions.

1. Will the pre-order of E3 Flasher be capable of dual booting at all? (By soldering? By solderless clip? At all?)
no, but you still can switch 3.72 and 3.55 with 2 HDD, only not fast switch .

2. Will the pre-order of E3 Flasher be capable of downgrading Nand AND Nor PS3 consoles? only nor flash

3. Is the E3 Flasher capable of downgrading multiple PS3 consoles? (Downgrade my PS3 then remove it and downgrade my friends PS3?) can’t , only 1pcs ps3

4. If there is no PC software, what is stored on the E3 Flasher NOR? A 3.55 downgrade image? Does the PS3 run the 3.55 fw from the E3 Flasher and leave the PS3 NOR alone?
no need pc software

5. If the E3 Flasher is NOT capable of dual booting, why do we have to pay for external hdd dock? I thought hdd dock, power switch, etc. was only used for dual booting?
still can switch


You can't even downgrade multiple consoles, it locks itself to the first one.

[Snaydher]

I just got an email back from them. Here is what they had to say to my questions.

1. Will the pre-order of E3 Flasher be capable of dual booting at all? (By soldering? By solderless clip? At all?)
no, but you still can switch 3.72 and 3.55 with 2 HDD, only not fast switch .

2. Will the pre-order of E3 Flasher be capable of downgrading Nand AND Nor PS3 consoles? only nor flash

3. Is the E3 Flasher capable of downgrading multiple PS3 consoles? (Downgrade my PS3 then remove it and downgrade my friends PS3?) can’t , only 1pcs ps3

4. If there is no PC software, what is stored on the E3 Flasher NOR? A 3.55 downgrade image? Does the PS3 run the 3.55 fw from the E3 Flasher and leave the PS3 NOR alone?
no need pc software

5. If the E3 Flasher is NOT capable of dual booting, why do we have to pay for external hdd dock? I thought hdd dock, power switch, etc. was only used for dual booting?
still can switch


You can't even downgrade multiple consoles, it locks itself to the first one.

If i had this info before i did'nt cancel my order. I'm really want to dual-boot with solder or not, doesn't matter.

[brainscanzz]

If i had this info before i did'nt cancel my order. I'm really want to dual-boot with solder or not, doesn't matter.

U cant dualboot even whit jesus help whit the limited edition, and this info come from the post previous your.
Maybe u have to read it once again :D

[GaryOPA]

When I first posted this news, I quickly wrote up a 'nasty' letter, with these questions:



It been posted.

But I would love clearly details if possible.

This ‘no dual-boot’ going to get a lot of people that pre-ordered upset.

Will those people be able to just update their E3 flasher, by ‘firmware’ and solder some wires, or will they have order a whole new flasher again!

But if 'whole new flasher', that well get many people upset, because of the pre-order price, etc.

If someone from your team could answer these questions it would really help.

Thanks.


Here is their answer:



here is some info :

user should know our first design is based solder , we get dual boot function well with that way.

But for e3 flasher with clip version , we did change lots of hardware and software.
it’s difficult to get dual boot with this clip version.

we will try to study a new way to get dual boot function on e3 flasher limited version, but it’s hard work, we can’t promise by far.

so if you want dual boot function, better wait our new device !


So it seems clear, no 'dual-boot' with this edition, that going to really cause problems with the 'resellers' as they are going to be on the hook for all the refunds, and then have a bunch of stock they can't sell.

[brainscanzz]

he's what they deserve ...ty for the clarifications Gary

[AbuseTheElderly]

I think the E3 team is going to take the hit. They are only shipping a couple hundred at a time so retailers can decline to accept and sell them. If there were a contract involved that makes resellers obligated to take them then it would also include the features expected by resellers. So by E3 cutting features it would null the contract to begin with. They are going to be left holding most of their current stock and will be forced to convert it to a more versitile chip or throw them out. Even if they do convert it to a new revision, It still locks itself to one console. Honestly, I would rather solder 40 wires and have a universal flasher for $65 than spend even $30 on what they are shipping as their "limited version."

[gDrive]

Ouch to people who preordered
Ouch to resellers
Ouch to E3 reputation

[As Ralph Wiggum] That's three owies! :(

Another bad event has happened in the PS3 scene - I just hope that there won't be any more bad events after this one.

[brainscanzz]

OT

Did someone saved a copy of Rogero Mfw v2 on hdd? All links seems broken and we all need it soon :P

[samdrlvt]

OT

Did someone saved a copy of Rogero Mfw v2 on hdd? All links seems broken and we all need it soon :P

Why does we all need it soon?!

[brainscanzz]

becasue we all have to update to that firmware after e3 flasher downgrade....i dunno what shitty .pup i get after their downgrade and i dont want to brick console just because once day i decide to change cfw

For WE i mean all ppl w8ing for the E3 flasher

[brakk3n]

I don't know how many times I say it, but people need to wait for the product and do not ever trust some features when dealing with newer companies. Most of the time tons of features get cut or where total BS to begin with. Some people never learn ...

[Snaydher]

Got this email below from Team E3DIY:

We think lots of user mis-understand us, here is some clarification.
1: E3 FLASHER LIMITED still provide 11 accessory, include esata station.
2: we design e3 flasher on solder way at first, this way can get dual boot well. But later we change hardware and software design because of adding clip. so finally it’s difficult to get dual boot function on e3 flasher clip version.
3: You still can get 3.72 and 3.55 switch with 2 HDD, it need more steps than dual boot, maybe we can call it half dual boot. This way no need any solder. We will release this half dual boot way in few days, you just upgrade e3 flasher limited and get it work.
4: We are working hard to allow e3 flasher limited vesion works really dual boot, but we can’t promise now because lots of changes.
5: We upload all neccessory software and manual, you can go here to download and enjoy one key downgrade.
6: New e3 flasher should come out in few month with more fantastic function !



source: ps3hax.net

[GaryOPA]

I got the same email also

But on my mobile so have not posted it

But Does nothing to help those fucked up by this

I removed the ads for e3 flasher from this site

[brainscanzz]

Got this email below from Team E3DIY:

We think lots of user mis-understand us, here is some clarification.
1: E3 FLASHER LIMITED still provide 11 accessory, include esata station.
2: we design e3 flasher on solder way at first, this way can get dual boot well. But later we change hardware and software design because of adding clip. so finally it’s difficult to get dual boot function on e3 flasher clip version.
3: You still can get 3.72 and 3.55 switch with 2 HDD, it need more steps than dual boot, maybe we can call it half dual boot. This way no need any solder. We will release this half dual boot way in few days, you just upgrade e3 flasher limited and get it work.
4: We are working hard to allow e3 flasher limited vesion works really dual boot, but we can’t promise now because lots of changes.
5: We upload all neccessory software and manual, you can go here to download and enjoy one key downgrade.
6: New e3 flasher should come out in few month with more fantastic function !



source: ps3hax.net

1.Next time include also a Dodge Viper on the parcel and sell it for 400.000$
2.Strange thing that u noticed this only after shipping.....really strange....
3.Half dual boot till sony release new fw, then u can say bb to this also
4.Like we still trust your "promises"
5.Software? OLOLOLOL WHERE? U mean the broken link and the file for service mode already out since 2009?AH i've just noticed i've also to buy a tf card + a tf card reader for pc gz....i cant even copy the file via usb whit 108$
6.YEAHHHHHHH function like scam mode button on front panel?

Go burn in hell E3 serioulsy....

P.S: Remember the no pc operation needed? 1 key downgrade? Another lie

[themuse]

uhhh now i am totally confused , damn these people and their engrish,
so does anyone know if they have released a phat nand version of the e3 flasher, a solderless one that can do dual boot?
or if and when they will release a solderless dualboot e3 flasher with a nand clip for phat nand consoles?

what versions have been released and what versions are still waiting to be released?

will the nand paht solderless version be a dulaboot ? or the half dualboot,whatever that is
i mean since the nand is 256 and the whole fw resides on the nand only and none of it goes on the hdd then shouldnt it be easier for it to dualboot with a fat nand than a fat nor system? or do i have that totally wrong? or does nobody know yet?

[themuse]

oh dear i never heard that before, well couldnt you just wrap the shit out of it with tape going aroung the whole MB?
or use some hot glue or rubber cement or something ?
i guess though it would suck of you want to use it primarily for a dualboot but also be able to remove it from time to time to downgrade your friends,orcustomers, guess it would be better to just buy 2 in that case, or another device to do the dg

[NuclearAqua]

Just ditch E3 and buy a Progskeet and wait for its solderless clip.

No way in hell I'd buy a 100$ flasher only for PS3, and that could someday be blocked with another FW update.

[brainscanzz]

get progskeet for nand, is solderless and support dual boot

[themuse]

yeah well nuclearaqua says the clip is not out yet, but i suppose you buy one from wassabi i think, i think i saw them selling a clip on its own, but you would have to match up the wires or build an adaptor most likely

but i think it would be better to wait ,which i would have to practically do anyhow since as aqua says ,no clip for skeet yet
and in that case i hope a e3 solution comes out
i just like the convience of the whole 1 touch downgrade and dualboot
so does anyone know if the progskeet is as easy? or is not a one touch solution?
i liked the design of the e3 , also isnt there another solution commin out with the pnm project?
but i think that would be the least user friendly version of this dg/dualboot , isnt it more or less for devs?
i thought that progskeet was also on the same idea and not really a user friendly end user solution , or at least not as easy as the e3
is that right? or do you guys think it would be as easy or not much harder and time consuming too use a progskeet over a e3
,and does having a nand over a nor make the process easier or harder? since the fw resides entirly on the nand, and not od the hdd unlike the nor consoles

[AbuseTheElderly]

get progskeet for nand, is solderless and support dual boot

I agree, get a progskeet. Once my money is back on my debit card that is what I will be buying. However, the solderless adapter and Dual Boot accessories have not yet been released. They are still in their testing stage, but I would rather put my money on a more developed solution like progskeet. Plus, once progskeet solderless and dual boot accessories come out, you can have 10 nands or 100 because all you have to do is swap a little quarter-sized chip that attaches to progskeet. I know you don't need that many but it is awesome that you can switch firmwares by switching that very small chip, it is even easier if you make the progskeet external with an IDE cable and header.

[brainscanzz]

file to copy for downgrade are on a cn site lol!
I can t even download them http://115.com/file/clt1oohc#downgrade_file.rar

This file from E3 got stolen from the dospieras/uff667 tutorial ololololol
I higly suggest you to use rogero mfw v2 intead of e3-nocheckstealedolol.pup.

[comman]

My order is going to ship from lightake (http://lightake.com/detail.do/sku.45875) today although without dual boot, they already promise free shipping by DHL as some discounts, I think E3DIY will find a way to solve the problem sooner or later.

[brainscanzz]

I think i will never purchase another e3 product.
Just for info, for the "1 key downgrade action" ofc u need pc, and u also need:
1.Usb device
2.TF card/Micro sd whit adapter ( or E3 card :) )
3.A dongle for put ps3 in factory mode ( hope my psp work)
4.3 different operation ( backup the nor,update the flasher and copy downgrade file->downgrade)
Really isnt a 1 key operation, also i'm ok whit this, but many ppl will have problems whit their " noob proof " method.
Also i want to open a discussion about this E3_Downgrade.bin, the file who start the whole downgrade process, he's 1 mb or so smaller than the dospieras one, and why this file dont need to be patched whit my own nor dump?
I wanted to analyze it, but link is still down....
I'm going to downgrade whit the dospieras file + rogero mfw v2, ofc i need to use their magical E3_downgrade.bin when they fix link, after that i will write a better tutorial for others.

[Kush]

I agree, they sad when they come out with updates for the E3 flasher, you can update them through pc usb. So I bet one of these updates will have to fix this hopefully.

[brakk3n]

Sorry mate, but that's the worse tutorial I've seen in a long time. It's all in the details! Explain! Take photos! Use a spell checker! Do a word count; is it over 2,000 words? No? Write more! (Tips from a pro)

[brainscanzz]

your is a totally nosense post....
And isnt clear also who's the target :\

[GaryOPA]

Lightake has been kind enough to ship out a free unit out of their 900 pieces that just arrived today from the E3 factory to one of our crunching developers, it should get to him by early next weekend, at that time he going to a complete study on the unit, write up a proper english tutorial and see what shortcomings there is, maybe even figure out a solution to this "dual-boot" problem, as I sure it just a matter of disabling the onboard NOR with maybe a cut and running an wire, which was in the original "solder-only-version" of E3 Flasher.

So truth will be out then, on what it does and what it can't do, as clearly the E3DIY team english and their website is real mess.

[AbuseTheElderly]

Maybe see if he can see why it binds to 1 ps3? That is my main concern.

[brainscanzz]

Lightake has been kind enough to ship out a free unit out of their 900 pieces that just arrived today from the E3 factory to one of our crunching developers, it should get to him by early next weekend

No offence on this but they have 40 pieces on stock atm, lightake will take more pieces on 18 October, so give for free a flasher when already payning ppl are waiting, is pissing on customer face imho
I've nothing against the donation, but against the timing of donation

Any news on broken "E3_dowgrade.bin" link?

[GaryOPA]

No offence on this but they have 40 pieces on stock atm, lightake will take more pieces on 18 October, so give for free a flasher when already payning ppl are waiting, is pissing on customer face imho
I've nothing against the donation, but against the timing of donation

Any news on broken "E3_dowgrade.bin" link?

Maybe I should have been more clear in my post, the 'deal' was made long time when the E3 was first announced, (if you look thru some of the older E3 news threads, you see I mention now and then), on mobile so can't search for actual post off-hand, I was really hoping the actual 'sample' unit would have came much earlier in time, but everyone got delayed including those waiting for 'samples', as maybe some of the problems over this would have been answered by having a unit in hands of actual PS3 owner.

As for their website, no information, the only contact I have is by email, and its Sunday in china, so not a working day.

Yes @AbuseTheElderly (god, I hope you do really don't do that???), that is one thing my reviewer person is going to test to see if is really true it only works on one console, and if so why or how it is happening.

[Kush]

E3 Flasher unboxing video by LighTake : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zHIjVSfgs0

[brakk3n]

your is a totally nosense post.... And isnt clear also who's the target :\ "after that i will write a better tutorial for others." - quote from you So you don't understand what I wrote? Maybe you should not write a new tutorial then esp. if you aren't open to advice. The post makes perfect sense. Your "tutorial" doesn't. If you need someone who can write English ask for help. examples - nosense = wrong spelling isnt is missing something Some people make good points, but when they can't write properly it makes them look very uneducated. Just trying to help.

[brainscanzz]

"after that i will write a better tutorial for others." - quote from you So you don't understand what I wrote? Maybe you should not write a new tutorial then esp. if you aren't open to advice. The post makes perfect sense. Your "tutorial" doesn't. If you need someone who can write English ask for help. examples - nosense = wrong spelling isnt is missing something Some people make good points, but when they can't write properly it makes them look very uneducated. Just trying to help.

i loled.
Start getting the fact that i dont have wrote any tutorial, since i dont have E3 flasher in my hands, my post was just a list of what u need for downgrade, i was just arguing whit E3 who called this a " 1 key downgrade" claiming that u dont need any pc operation....just read the post again and again, how can u get it for a tutorial?
I've just say "i'm going to make a tutorial", after i downgraded already, but this isnt needed since a dev from this site will do it in my place as Gary told us recently

[gDrive]

Yes @AbuseTheElderly (god, I hope you do really don't do that???), that is one thing my reviewer person is going to test to see if is really true it only works on one console, and if so why or how it is happening.

I http://images.ngemu.com/forum/smilies/new1/rotflmao.gif when I first saw that nickname, in a "what the heck" kind of way!

That was seriously funny (I assume that person used that nickname for lulz though) - no offense to the elderly!

[brakk3n]

Start getting the fact that i dont have wrote any tutorial Well, you typed "after that i will write a better tutorial for others." Stating you'll write a better one and your thread contained stuff needed I must of misunderstood you. I apologize.

[brainscanzz]

Better tutorial than the E3 one, they wrote a tutorial whit broken links, wrost english of planet ( mine suck too i know, but it is 100 times better) and whitout the part of put ps3 on factory mode.
You dont need to apoligize bro

[AbuseTheElderly]

I http://images.ngemu.com/forum/smilies/new1/rotflmao.gif when I first saw that nickname, in a "what the heck" kind of way!

That was seriously funny (I assume that person used that nickname for lulz though) - no offense to the elderly!

This is exactly why. I work with 2 women who are over 55 and I do not trip or abuse them, promise!

[JLM]

The tying it to one console is a let down of a move from e3. They didn't do that with the e3card. I feel sorry for those who ordered in anticipation of the dual-boot feature, but don't give up I they really are working on it, but you may have to solder a couple of wires to the board (not the chip), much easier. They should come up with a way to clip wires to the board. Wasn't there some kind of "solder" that you paint on or a solder pen?

As far as AbuseTheElderly goes, maybe he is elderly and he is referring to himself? I apologize if I misunderstood.

[AbuseTheElderly]

I'm 25, which is considered old to some on here. I chose the name because it's funny and fits my personality. I don't physically abuse the elderly, but I do own a 2000 watt stereo system in my truck that shakes other peoples mirrors. Those who have met me see the comedy in it when paired with my personality, I aint scared to shake an old woman's wig!

[brainscanzz]

congratz, now back on topic.

All download links fixed on E3 site, also the upload on chinese site have been moved to an english one

Edit: quote from E3 "Please note don't install any other 3.55FW after downgrade to 3.55, otherwise will have brick risk ! "
Also whit rogero mfw v2?

[millab]

I'll have mine in my hands tomorrow hopefully. The shop posted mine to me this morning.

Also, things seem to be looking up a bit with the latest on the E3 Tech website:

News:

2011-10-19
E3 FLASHER LIMITED downgrade 3.73 to 3.55 successful, the downgrade way is same as 3.72 downgrade to 3.55, no change !
Please note after downgrade to 3.55, this 3.55 is a special CFW3.55, you can install any manager you love on this 3.55CFW! here we upload a good working multman manager for user.
We also add two new email address today, to get help, please contact help.e3@gmail.com ;
to enquiry sale question, please contact sale2.e3@gmail.com

[GaryOPA]

The E3 unit appeared earlier this morning in the hands of one of our Crunching developers.

His first impression, is they the packaging is 'very sexy', and the whole setup is professional and designed well, except for the 'flex cable' it is fragile looking, but the clip itself is very sturdy.

He already finished on clearer English tutorial for the unit, and well be taking photos and producing a new in-depth review and testing out all the features, including trying it on systems that have been bricked to see if it can help recover those.

Stay tuned for more information.

[Snaydher]

The E3 unit appeared earlier this morning in the hands of one of our Crunching developers.

His first impression, is they the packaging is 'very sexy', and the whole setup is professional and designed well, except for the 'flex cable' it is fragile looking, but the clip itself is very sturdy.

He already finished on clearer English tutorial for the unit, and well be taking photos and producing a new in-depth review and testing out all the features, including trying it on systems that have been bricked to see if it can help recover those.

Stay tuned for more information.

Great news!! waiting for information about one downgrade per console. I think a little workaround can be fix this 'feature'

[rednekcowboy]

I'll have mine in my hands tomorrow hopefully. The shop posted mine to me this morning.

Also, things seem to be looking up a bit with the latest on the E3 Tech website:

News:

2011-10-19
E3 FLASHER LIMITED downgrade 3.73 to 3.55 successful, the downgrade way is same as 3.72 downgrade to 3.55, no change !
Please note after downgrade to 3.55, this 3.55 is a special CFW3.55, you can install any manager you love on this 3.55CFW! here we upload a good working multman manager for user.
We also add two new email address today, to get help, please contact help.e3@gmail.com ;
to enquiry sale question, please contact sale2.e3@gmail.com

IDK, I'm very wary of anything that you have to use only one version of software with. The more I read about this E3 Flasher, the sketchier it sounds.

[dhyane]

The E3 unit appeared earlier this morning in the hands of one of our Crunching developers.

His first impression, is they the packaging is 'very sexy', and the whole setup is professional and designed well, except for the 'flex cable' it is fragile looking, but the clip itself is very sturdy.

He already finished on clearer English tutorial for the unit, and well be taking photos and producing a new in-depth review and testing out all the features, including trying it on systems that have been bricked to see if it can help recover those.

Stay tuned for more information.

any news so far??whats the outcome??eagerly awaiting for good news:)

[hworth]

Has anyone who preordered from Acekard.ca received their E3 yet, or any word about when they might start shipping to customers? I ordered on October 11th and since then no new information has appeared on their site, plus they haven't answered either of my support tickets so I'm starting to get a bit worried :(

[brainscanzz]

you payd whit paypal i hope.
Aniway i've preorder mine on same date, and i've already the track number from lightake after a 2 days flame on supports.
Open a paypal contest, get your money back, and order one from lightake

[comman]

Has anyone who preordered from Acekard.ca received their E3 yet, or any word about when they might start shipping to customers? I ordered on October 11th and since then no new information has appeared on their site, plus they haven't answered either of my support tickets so I'm starting to get a bit worried :(
I have got my parcel last week shipped via free DHL from lightake (http://lightake.com/detail.do/sku.45875),miracle happened -only 3days arrived! I think you can ask them for refund anyway!

[JLM]

I got my original E3 jb dongle (not this E3 flasher) from acekard.ca. They responded to an question/email about my order quickly, and the package was shipped/arrived quickly. It was shipped from New York, U.S. That was December 2010. So I don't think they are scammers, but if it was my package taking so long I would be concerned as well.

[eberkelmans]

I received mine from Acekard.ca today. Haven't opened the shipping packaging it came in.
I want my money back for a falsely advertised product.
I paid with credit card though... Does anyone know how I should go about getting my money back?

[Kush]

Yeah, I bought from Acekard to and paid with credit card. I don't want a refund but I just haven't received it yet. And they won't reply to any of my support tickets. So I'm still waiting everyday. But the installation for it seems pretty easy, do you guys agree?

[loller]

The E3 unit appeared earlier this morning in the hands of one of our Crunching developers.

His first impression, is they the packaging is 'very sexy', and the whole setup is professional and designed well, except for the 'flex cable' it is fragile looking, but the clip itself is very sturdy.

He already finished on clearer English tutorial for the unit, and well be taking photos and producing a new in-depth review and testing out all the features, including trying it on systems that have been bricked to see if it can help recover those.

Stay tuned for more information.

When this review will be posted?
I'm courious about that dev if he have fat console or slim
Btw if u have a fat console give a look here guys:
http://www.ps3crunch.net/forum/threads/1567-E3-flasher-absolutely-need-help