TrueBlue CFW for downgraded PS3

[dandza]

Can anyone explain why is it so hard for TB team to release a CFW with lv1 syscon checks disabled?

There are so many ppl with PS3 that was downgraded to 3.55 and they can use only CFW with disabled lv1 checks... (like Rogero CFW)

Its not too difficult to patch the TB CFW and insert patches for lv1, but as someone mentioned the dongle dont like when lv1 is modified so im afraid not to destroy it..

Has anyone tried to make a TB CFW with support for downgraded PS3?

Anyone?

Bitsbubba i know you mentioned something about patching a TB CFW with lv1 checks disabled, did you tested it?

[TomAlek]

Supports Fat and Slim PS3 consoles currently running any firmware up to v3.55 and any PS3 which can be downgraded successfully from v3.6+ to v3.55 (NOTE: requires other tools, True Blue cannot downgrade a console)It should work on downgraded console...I think?

[najmudi]

after downgrade with E3-Flasher can CFW from True Blue team Installling

[bitsbubba]

Anyone?

Bitsbubba i know you mentioned something about patching a TB CFW with lv1 checks disabled, did you tested it?

I have no way of testing it

[Abkarino]

I had tested it with a hardware downgraded console and console dead :(
Just flashed the original dump again and console not work :(
After hard work i got it work again but after patching this dump with downgrade v2 patch.
I hope that TB-Team release a new CFW for downgraded console also.

[Bartholomy]

What happened to you happened to many others. Reason because we wrote plently times: Wait a TB cfw for downgraded consoles from TB team.

[Abkarino]

it's not a problem since i have progskeet and a good dump before installing TB CFW :)
So i just flashed my console now and it work again :D

[dandza]

Abkarino from progskeet irc?

Can you give us some more info, what patch did you use and how did you implemented it in TB CFW, and some details and what tools did you use? (PS3MFW builder? or manually patched lv1.elf?)

[TomAlek]

Is there any problem with installing a TB CFW on downgraded console by Progskeet?

[dandza]

If you install TB CFW on downgraded consoles (doesnt matter if its progskeet or E3 or any other flasher) you get a bricked console, because TB CFW doesnt have lv1 checks disabled and console goes into RLOD on boot.
Only way to revive it is to use same flasher and write the backup.

So we need TB CFW with lv1 hash check disabled like Rogero V2 CFW has.

[TomAlek]

It's just stupid, so why does Kmeaw work on console downgraded by Progskeet?

[dandza]

Because its integrated in Rogeros cfw

[Abkarino]

Abkarino from progskeet irc?

Can you give us some more info, what patch did you use and how did you implemented it in TB CFW, and some details and what tools did you use? (PS3MFW builder? or manually patched lv1.elf?)

Yea i'm.
I didn't patched TB-CFW till now cause it'll brick dongle if so.
I need to dump dongle spi flash first so if it killed i can flash it again and safe it from brick :)

[Abkarino]

It's just stupid, so why does Kmeaw work on console downgraded by Progskeet?

Original Kmeaw CFW not work with hardware downgraded console if it has a 3.55+ before downgraded, it will kill it since kmeaw not have a lv1 hash check remove patch.

[JLM]

I thought I read somewhere that after installing the Rogero patched firmware you could install official 3.55 (or above) and it would rehash the syscon. Then you could install whatever 3.55 you want.
edit 2: Read below and that thread first! See if you come to the same conclusion.
edit 1: Oh, here it is:



Quote Originally Posted by v8s10 View Post
Quote Originally Posted by master737373 View Post
You only need to skip hash checks until you rehash the syscon. To that, install rogero cfw v2, or any other cfw that skips hash checks. Go to the recovery menu and reinstall 3.55. Or you could use FSM to rehash.
Just to be clear on this, are you saying that after i've downgraded and installed Rogero cfw v2 (no check) I can go to recovery menu or FSM and install 3.55 ofw and then the syscon won't be checking for 3.70 (what i downgraded from)? I need to remarry a bd drive and can't downgrade yet, this would help if it works!
Yes. Just the Recovery Menu route is ok.

Quote Originally Posted by mrdrifta View Post
Just to be safe, i would downgrade to a firmware lower than 3.41 (you will need to for blu-ray remarry anyway) and then when you install a higher firmware (3.55) it will rehash syscon for you.
Go down below 3.41 ONLY if you NEED to remarry the BD drive. If you just want to downgrade, go to 3.55 rogero or use the nocheck.pup with 3.55 ofw or any other fw, go to the Recovery Menu and reinstall 3.55 or higher to rehash.


Of course, you don't need to remarry, so no need to go lower.

final edit: So the people in that thread that are switching to another firmware via OFW are still not going below their minimum version. You can see from the answer by Master737373, the rehashing does not alter the minimum version value in the eeprom, so you can't go to another firmware besides the Rogero (or equivalent) if your minimum value in the eeprom is higher. You can read his answer in that thread.

[TomAlek]

"You have now successfully downgraded, and installed 3.55 KMEAW CFW on your PS3! You can check out our forums for more info on various homebrew, or drop by our tutorial section for more neat things you can do with your unlocked PS3 :) ." Tutorial from other site.

[JLM]

Mr. Alek, I don't understand. Is that a joke or are you pointing us to a tutorial on another site?

BTW, in case you don't know the Master737373, he knows what he is talking about.

[TomAlek]

Do they mean that you have installed a 3.55 CFW SIMILIAR TO KMEAW's one then? If yes, that sux >.<

Hm, are you sure about that one "go to 3.55 rogero or use the nocheck.pup with 3.55 ofw or any other fw, go to the Recovery Menu and reinstall 3.55 or higher to rehash." ?
I have read like 5000 times that installing 3.55 OFW on 3.55 rogero will brick a console...I am just a noob here but I'm trying to learn and I read sites like this one every day, so just asking.

[bitsbubba]

Do they mean that you have installed a 3.55 CFW SIMILIAR TO KMEAW's one then? If yes, that sux >.<

Hm, are you sure about that one "go to 3.55 rogero or use the nocheck.pup with 3.55 ofw or any other fw, go to the Recovery Menu and reinstall 3.55 or higher to rehash." ?
I have read like 5000 times that installing 3.55 OFW on 3.55 rogero will brick a console...I am just a noob here but I'm trying to learn and I read sites like this one every day, so just asking.after downgrade from 3.56+ FW to Rogero 3.55 CFW every CFW/MFW from that point on need to have the "Lv1 no check" patch unless the FW you are installing is the same version or higher of that you downgraded from in the first place

[dandza]

^^ True!

Since i had some spare time i actually tested right now and console bricked, so no way of using lower FW then the one that was downgraded from without checks disabled!

Also i tested TB CFW with only lv1 checks applied and without dongle ps3 boots fine and works ok, but when i boot ps3 with dongle in usb it freezes with blank screen.
After that when dongle is removed ps3 again boots fine.
I assume there is some security check by dongle if the Core OS is modified (hash), and if thats true then we can only wait for TB team to make a CFW with lv1 checks disabled...

PS dongle is not bricked, it works just fine.

[bitsbubba]

^^ True!

Since i had some spare time i actually tested right now and console bricked, so no way of using lower FW then the one that was downgraded from without checks disabled!

Also i tested TB CFW with only lv1 checks applied and without dongle ps3 boots fine and works ok, but when i boot ps3 with dongle in usb it freezes with blank screen.
After that when dongle is removed ps3 again boots fine.
I assume there is some security check by dongle if the Core OS is modified (hash), and if thats true then we can only wait for TB team to make a CFW with lv1 checks disabled...

PS dongle is not bricked, it works just fine.so my test plus your test makes 2 confirming this, good show dandza

[JLM]

@ dandza, Just to be sure I get it, you downgraded with hardware flasher with Rogero no check firmware, everything works fine, installed 3.55 OFW through recovery menu, and it bricks? Then what is the Master refering to? Did I misunderstand?

What form of hash check does TB use? Can you alter some noncritical part of coreos to get it to report the same value?

[dandza]

Yeah, well maybe we should make a MOVEMENT/REQUEST for CFW for downgraded consoles, too... :confusion:


@ dandza, Just to be sure I get it, you downgraded with hardware flasher with Rogero no check firmware, everything works fine, installed 3.55 OFW through recovery menu, and it bricks? Then what is the Master refering to? Did I misunderstand?

What form of hash check does it use? Can you alter some noncritical part of coreos to get it to report the same value?

I did everything like he (you) said, and it was a brick (i already knew that its gonna brick but as i said i had some spare time to test)
I even tried with TB CFW after rogero, it was the same result...
And, NO, you didnt misunderstood cause thats exactly what he said, but he is wrong.

As for second question, i really dont know...

[JLM]

When you run the minvercheck or that other package (can't remember the name), that checks what is the minimum firmware your console can be downgraded to, what value do you get? For example, my machine came with 3.50 but reports it can go down to 3.40. In fact I did downgrade to 3.40 and it was fine, but most 3.50 report they can only go down to 3.50. So the rehashing by installing the ofw 3.55 is not changing that value? Then it's basically for consoles that started out at 3.55 or lower? Well, it is possible to change values in the eeprom, isn't that what qa flag does? Does anyone know how to change that value?

edit: for maybe a few that haven't seen it here is the link to the tool (actually, a special little pup):
http://www.ps3crunch.net/forum/threads/297-Min-Downgrade-Version-Check-Tool-Released

(also I think there is a package that can do the same thing but don't remember the name)

[GaryOPA]

I been away for a few days at one of those off-shore all-inclusive casino beach resorts, so I been a little off-base so to speak.

I read thru this thread, and send an 'offline' message to those in charge, when we catch each other online I will discuss the matter in more depth with the powers to be, and see what happens.

It nice to be back in my quiet tropical home, after spending time at non-stop 24 hour party resort, boy was that crazy, not to mention the jet lag going back and forth, but it was all for business meeting, and well worth it.

TTYL

[JLM]

@Tom Alek, just to reiterate what bitsbubba, dandza, and Master737373 have explained (and cancel out any confusion from my post), you cannot yet go below the minimum version value that is in your eeprom without using the Rogero (or equivalent) firmware; it will brick. The people in that thread who could go to OFW 3.55 and then another CFW (even though downgrading with hardware flasher)were not going below the minimum value. You could check what yours is.

@GaryOPA, thanks for the update.

[2615863]

Cant you downgrade your console to 3.55, QA flag it, then downgrade again to 3.41, then reflash OFW 3.55?

[Bartholomy]

I been away for a few days at one of those off-shore all-inclusive casino beach resorts, Yay, Blackjack and Roulette! :D Texas poker was available? Did you won some cash? :)

[Abkarino]

I been away for a few days at one of those off-shore all-inclusive casino beach resorts, so I been a little off-base so to speak.

I read thru this thread, and send an 'offline' message to those in charge, when we catch each other online I will discuss the matter in more depth with the powers to be, and see what happens.

It nice to be back in my quiet tropical home, after spending time at non-stop 24 hour party resort, boy was that crazy, not to mention the jet lag going back and forth, but it was all for business meeting, and well worth it.

TTYL

ThanX Gray for your help, a lot of peoples here want this CFW for a hardware downgraded consoles.

[TomAlek]

Okay guys, lal, even a fkin newbie who has problems with english like me understands now how it works, thank you very much for your help.
And GaryOPA I keep my fingers crossed dude, I think soooo many people would love to have working TB Dongle on their downgraded console.

[Abkarino]

Hi GrayOpa any new news about TB CFW that support hardware downgraded consoles?
A lot of peoples waiting for it :(

[mechicoco]

Help me please, I had a downgraded console of 3.70 OFW to 3.55 CFW Rogeiro,
Try installing the CFW of the true blue from recovery mode on my CFW 3.55 Rogeiro, to complete the installation my console died, and does not start.

Turn on and off at 3 seconds later.

Help me please, I can do to revive my ps3.

[bitsbubba]

I believe if you downgrade to Rogero install QA flag (w/ REBUG's QA Toggle) & set Debug Update, you should be able to install any FW you want through Recovery Menu

[mechicoco]

I believe if you downgrade to Rogero install QA flag (w/ REBUG's QA Toggle) & set Debug Update, you should be able to install any FW you want through Recovery Menu


The problem is that my console only on for 3 seconds and shuts down

this what I do with the ProgSkeet

[mechicoco]

The problem is that my console only on for 3 seconds and shuts down


what you said, is to install CFW Rogero again the progskeet

exists a problem if I tried to install the backup of 3.70 OFW, but I have not found this console because I have other backups ps3, and I have spent the backup OFW other consoles?

I have no problem if you tried this? or just install the Rogero with the information you gave me.

[dandza]

The solution for you to revive your ps3 is simple if you have a progskeet like you said...

Simplest way is to make a downgrade one more time with the dump that you read from the ps3 that is now in the condition like you described (shuts down after 3 sec).
Just to be sure, connect the NOR_TRISTATE to progskeet to make it freeze and not shutdown during the downgrade process.

So, all you need is to get your CoreOS replaced with patched one, and the simplest way is to use dospiedras V2 patch and write back that dump in ps3, and use the recovery or servise mode to write Rogero PUP back, and there you have reapired your PS3.

Next time just read before you do anything like that, and wait for the official TB CFW with lv1 checks disabled, which will be released soon i hope...

[Abkarino]

A newer patch for downgraded console will be released tonight wait me,
it's in testing phase right now ;)

[mechicoco]

The solution for you to revive your ps3 is simple if you have a progskeet like you said...

Simplest way is to make a downgrade one more time with the dump that you read from the ps3 that is now in the condition like you described (shuts down after 3 sec).
Just to be sure, connect the NOR_TRISTATE to progskeet to make it freeze and not shutdown during the downgrade process.

So, all you need is to get your CoreOS replaced with patched one, and the simplest way is to use dospiedras V2 patch and write back that dump in ps3, and use the recovery or servise mode to write Rogero PUP back, and there you have reapired your PS3.

Next time just read before you do anything like that, and wait for the official TB CFW with lv1 checks disabled, which will be released soon i hope...


there any tutorial for this procedure or any video?


Thank you, I hope this works,

I wish you a happy and prosperous new year.

[Bartholomy]

A newer patch for downgraded console will be released tonight wait me,
it's in testing phase right now ;)Uh? :confused:

[corolla0305]

see here
http://www.ps3crunch.net/forum/threads/2192-KADO-True-Blue-JB2-Patch-for-Downgraded-consoles