Team PS360 Launches - Plans are NO BULLSHIT, NO DRAMA, RELEASE EVERYTHING

[GaryOPA]

Well it seems various groups of different people and PS3 developers have gotten tried of all the recent site wars, and scene drama going on everyday on the forums and Twitter and as such have decided to make a fresh start and form a new team called PS360, that plans to be everything that the others so called 'Elites' have not been doing so far!


http://www.ps3crunch.net/forum/images/news/nobullshit.jpg

100% NO BULLSHIT OR DRAMA GROUP, RELEASE EVERYTHING WITH NO DELAYS ALSO, AND NEVER ASK FOR ANY DONATIONS EITHER!



Today marks the official launch of the Team PS360 website. Many may wonder who and what we are, well allow me to clear up any misconceptions and explain our purpose on the internet.

We are a group of people of various experience with console systems. Ranging from hardware modification, firmware modification, custom firmware, rebooters, and much more. We are sick and tired of the PS3 scene 'Devs' who bow to the whim of of one single asshole dev who wants to have the full spotlight and thinks he can push around other devs in the scene. This specific "Dev" I speak of is well known for "quitting" but still trying to pull the strings of others to get the e-fame he wants. We find this unacceptable and will no longer stand for it. We will eventually get the keys needed upgrade to newer ps3 firmware to play new games. We have the background in enough various areas that we are confident this goal will be reached before anyone else will actually release it.

We are not saying we are better than anyone else or other teams out there, we are saying we will release info we find and will not let certain people blackmail us or try to strong arm us into not releasing. This dev should know who he is and others should know what we are talking about, to this dev, I say "Try to stop us!". Jerk.

At this moment we will be accepting applications for testers, devs, moderators and designers. Look for application details to soon be posted in the Applications forum.

We make this promise.
We will never demand any payment.
We will never require a donation, though they can be given if you wish.
We will never hold back any release based on any kind of money gain.
We will never fold to the underhanded dealings of any rival dev to try to silence us or delay release.
The info we find, we believe it belongs to the world and will post all information we find that is useful.
We will never lie or try to deceive the scene into thinking we have something we do not.
With all this being said, please feel free to roam our forums, read any info that may be posted at the current moment, which I admit is not much.

My name is Coragin, other team members will introduce themselves as they see fit.

Happy gaming and enjoy your time here.


Only time will tell if these people in fact live up to ther promises and do infact release stuff.
All tho, I see this annoucement causing more drama by itself. :)

NEWS SOURCE: Official Team PS360 Launch (http://ps360team.console-mods.net/showthread.php?3-Official-Launch-Team-PS360-Website.)

Thanks to our valued member Gamba for the Crunching news tip this evening.

[HolyPuma]

I hate to burst anyone's bubble, but this team won't release anything.

[Digital-Spooker]

I hate to burst anyone's bubble, but this team won't release anything.

How can you say that for certain though? If you have any info to dispute it, then please put it foreword, until then, I'm going to say good for them, this is what we need to push the scene foreword.

[gDrive]

Well it seems various groups of different people and PS3 developers have gotten tried of all the recent site wars, and scene drama going on everyday on the forums and Twitter and as such have decided to make a fresh start and form a new team called PS360, that plans to be everything that the others so called 'Elites' have not been doing so far!


http://www.ps3crunch.net/forum/images/news/nobullshit.jpg

100% NO BULLSHIT OR DRAMA GROUP, RELEASE EVERYTHING WITH NO DELAYS ALSO, AND NEVER ASK FOR ANY DONATIONS EITHER!



Only time will tell if these people in fact live up to ther promises and do infact release stuff.
All tho, I see this annoucement causing more drama by itself. :)

NEWS SOURCE: Official Team PS360 Launch (http://ps360team.console-mods.net/showthread.php?3-Official-Launch-Team-PS360-Website.)

Thanks to our valued member Gamba for the Crunching news tip this evening.

God willing!

That is all!


How can you say that for certain though? If you have any info to dispute it, then please put it foreword, until then, I'm going to say good for them, this is what we need to push the scene foreword.

Exactly sir! Innocent until proven guilty!

[Pockets69]

My opinion on all this, bullshit! (but i would like to be proven wrong), still best of luck to them.

[Gamba]

My opinion on all this, bullshit! (but i would like to be proven wrong), still best of luck to them.

Opinion? C'mon. They are going to work on it. If they fail, well atleast they'll try. You call bullshit on what EXACTLY? Seriously? They are pushing the scene to the right direction and you call bullshit on that? What the fuck?

[dangwoot]

i can say that these dudes are serious.... iv'e also applied to be a part of the team so i'd really appreciate it if there would be no more trolling about this!

shut up sit back and wait is all i can say.....

[gDrive]

My opinion on all this, bullshit! (but i would like to be proven wrong), still best of luck to them.


Opinion? C'mon. They are going to work on it. If they fail, well atleast they'll try. You call bullshit on what EXACTLY? Seriously? They are pushing the scene to the right direction and you call bullshit on that? What the fuck?

Personally, I'm sceptical on all of this (but I do hope they actually stand by their words), but it's just a matter of time as to whether they will release something that is worthwhile! If they do, then I gotta give them respect for that, otherwise, HolyPuma & Pockets69's opinions stand firm!

[dangwoot]

well i can tell you that alot of apps are being submitted so this is a very serious idea.

[dangwoot]

oh and for anyone who want's to start shit there will be a mandatory one week ban....i don't care who either.

[GregoryRasputin]

are they affiliated with ps3iso, will these release's be legal ?

[dangwoot]

well i know that some members are from ps3iso but nothing has been said regarding what types of releases will come out...but the general consensus is that it's going to be whatever related to the ps3...everything from nand to free dlc to npdrm cracks....just what everyone else is afraid to release.

[Gamba]

are they affiliated with ps3iso, will these release's be legal ?

Why do you care if these release will be legal? Sorry, I know why. And yes, they will release EVERYTHING for EVERYONE. Even if it's against anybody's moral principles.

[and_fis]

All i can say..... "Its about damn time!!" looks like we might get a group that will do something.. in the last 2 weeks the xbox devs have made more strides than the ps3 devs have in 4 months as far as cracking open a system goes.. I hope these people stand by their words. (They either must have some mad skills to make claims like they just made or they are just trying to get some digital lime light from the basement of there moms house ) If dangwoot is all in on this group then they must have some mad skills and some forethought into what they can and cant do for this scene.. So I say f** yeah!! its time to kick ass and chew bubblegum !!! lets see what they can do!!!

[lightyear]

@pockets...don't be a hater, man

....and to all you skeptics, hang tight!!! We're very close to releasing our first project!! and it's gonna be a big one.

[Gamba]

We all know that by Sony's "let's sue everyone 'til they all die" standards, none of the scene's releases are "legal" (sorry Gamba)

No, you didn't get his post. In other words, he meant by that if they are going to ''filter'' what the scene needs in term of piracy/DLC and stuff.

I'll leave TEAM PS360 reply to this matter :

Introducing Team PS360.

Some of you may have seen me post on various threads about the team that is being formed from various members here.

The purpose is we are sick and tired of shady "devs" that demand donations and run off or never even post new findings and sit on them. I wont go into a long description of the shady "Devs" we all know who is and isint.

We will not be blackmailed nor will we hold any information we find to ourselves.
We will never demand donations for what we find or release, if some wish to donate, that is their choice and will never be required for any of our releases.
We will not be told we cant release something by other Devs out there. Likewise, should we release something, you will know it was us no matter what those other devs might say about having it first. (If you didnt release it then you didnt have it to begin with, no matter what you say)

Our projects: We have many, some small, some large, some long term, others such as 3.60 keys will be found and released and we will move on. Here is a list of current projects.

Find 3.6x+ keys for release
Retail to Debug
PSX Install and play on all systems.
PS2 Install and play on BC systems.
PSP Install and play if possible. (there is a psp emulator in the ps3 fw)
DLC Addons installation
DLC Standalone Games
NPDRM Keys for release
Netflix that will not require PSN login.

Future projects to look into...
Android integration (Remote play, remote control ect.)
Android OtherOS

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A good news for the scene and a sad news to the shady developers and its followers.

[t_jay17]

Hopefully good things come from them. Best of luck to them.

[gDrive]

No, you didn't get his post. In other words, he meant by that if they are going to ''filter'' what the scene needs in term of piracy/DLC and stuff.

I'll leave TEAM PS360 reply to this matter :

Introducing Team PS360.

Some of you may have seen me post on various threads about the team that is being formed from various members here.

The purpose is we are sick and tired of shady "devs" that demand donations and run off or never even post new findings and sit on them. I wont go into a long description of the shady "Devs" we all know who is and isint.

We will not be blackmailed nor will we hold any information we find to ourselves.
We will never demand donations for what we find or release, if some wish to donate, that is their choice and will never be required for any of our releases.
We will not be told we cant release something by other Devs out there. Likewise, should we release something, you will know it was us no matter what those other devs might say about having it first. (If you didnt release it then you didnt have it to begin with, no matter what you say)

Our projects: We have many, some small, some large, some long term, others such as 3.60 keys will be found and released and we will move on. Here is a list of current projects.

Find 3.6x+ keys for release
Retail to Debug
PSX Install and play on all systems.
PS2 Install and play on BC systems.
PSP Install and play if possible. (there is a psp emulator in the ps3 fw)
DLC Addons installation
DLC Standalone Games
NPDRM Keys for release
Netflix that will not require PSN login.

Future projects to look into...
Android integration (Remote play, remote control ect.)
Android OtherOS

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A good news for the scene and a sad news to the shady developers and its followers.

Ouch, my bad! Thanks for the correction Gamba (but Sony likes to sue everyone when one releases a neat piece of homebrew which is beneficial to them and the scene sadly) - right now, I'm going to twiddle my thumbs in the hope that they do something great!

Good luck!

[Gamba]

Ouch, my bad! Thanks for the correction Gamba (but Sony likes to sue everyone when one releases a neat piece of homebrew which is beneficial to them and the scene sadly).

No worries there. Just it seems that a lot of people are going to be soon haters on PS360 side really quick. (See avatar - Aww yeah) :)

[gDrive]

No worries there. Just it seems that a lot of people are going to be soon haters on PS360 side really quick. (See avatar - Aww yeah) :)

I had no intention of hating them at all, but yeah, you can't blame some people here for "jumping on the hating bandwagon" as the fans have been pushed around and screwed over so many times that they have lost faith in this scene and are now sceptical as a result of this!

Anyone want to make a toast for the scene to move forward?

[superboy1281]

best of luck to all involved. And to the naysayers, put a lid on it already.

[lightyear]

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/6488/hatersgonnahateo.gif

[Bootlegninja]

I'm skeptical, but I really do hope they can pull this off. Mainly because I have to agree. The PS3 scene is shit.

[lightyear]

removed

~LY

[TheBlackHand]

I love it, whether they crack keys or not it's the right attitude and mindset when you are doing these types of projects. Hope they do what they're setting out to do, cool bunch of guys doing it.

[svenmullet]

are they affiliated with ps3iso, will these release's be legal ?
I thought you were banned? ;)
And why would you care if the "release's" are legal or not?

[xPreatorianx]

Why do you care if these release will be legal? Sorry, I know why. And yes, they will release EVERYTHING for EVERYONE. Even if it's against anybody's moral principles.

I was wondering the same thing. Who cares if they are legal? It's on a piracy site. The same scene rules do not apply. They are just like any other piracy scene, no holds bar, release what you got, screw the law, type of peeps. Which is good. We need that. No more moral crusading. Let the police in your respective country do the damn moral crusading.

EDIT: But even if they aren't gonna directly affiliate themselves with say ps3iso or whatever, who cares about the legality? This is the only scene that seems to care about the legality of tools and what they will bring.

Just let them release whatever they want. If it's illegal, who cares? Don't download it, or download it, it's your choice. But they shouldn't hold back a release just because it could lead to illegal things. Most human based creations can be used for illegal purposes. Whether they are designed for such or not. Hell you know that fork you use to eat spaghetti? I can stab you with it. So everything that humans have created, can be used for illegal or malicious purposes. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't create/release them now should we? no it doesn't. We should worry more about Open source and Freedom of information, then legality. I mean for god sakes, this is an underground gaming SCENE. SCENE's are usually about illegal things. Or they are tied to illegal things.

[dignity67]

Looooooooooooong time lurker comin out of the bushes right now.... from dash hacks to x-scene to groove and hax.net, this news made me come say in the joe swanson voice of family guy------



BRING IT OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!!!!!!!!!

[MacAmb]

any familiar faces in this site ?

[xPreatorianx]

any familiar faces in this site ?

Well if you frequent PS3iso ya. Otherwise no. At least none that have been revealed yet. This is a team that is coming together from the no holds bar side of the scene. The piracy scene. So right now it seems no one from this scene is gonna be on board. (Dangwoot said he's getting on board, and I know someone else who got an offer as well.)

[Dark Scyth]

I'm also skeptical but who wouldn't be the way the scene has been of recent. The way the scene is now you have to prove yourself as to what you can do as unfortunately even in the modding scene talk has become cheap, people wanting their temporary fame until after awhile when people question it and begin to hate them (seen it with many emus among other things, JFW maybe?) As far as legal issues, i'll say i'm more of a legit user instead of piracy, at that same time who cares if piracy is involved, it's something that is inevitable and is impossible for any modifications of a console to not have piracy so complaining about this now is just irrelevant and useless as we should all know that piracy will never cease to exist. It is quite odd though, some people get their computers taken away from doing something completely legal (Graf) while Sony does nothing to stop a site purely fueled on piracy. From all i've heard about people talking about piracy, that alone could make a soap opera for the PS3 scene. This scene is missing something and it's quite easy to say this in a non-sophisticated way, which is what i'm good at doing. The scene needs a pair. To say we have absolutely no good devs is obviously absurd, there are a few devs that do a damn good job but that being said we don't have any devs in this scene that want to push boundaries, which is what we need to be done. So yes while I am sure as hell skeptical, if it turns out to be real, you can sure as hell bet I won't have a problem with them coming to the scene, piracy or not, show the scene what you can do.

[MacAmb]

yeah i know PS3ISO .

i knew it dang will finally do something good to the scene (support Piracy) :lol:

[dignity67]

This scene is missing something and it's quite easy to say this in a non-sophisticated way, which is what i'm good at doing. The scene needs a pair {Of Huevos}. To say we have absolutely no good devs is obviously absurd, there are a few devs that do a damn good job {Some Damn good devs but most of their works are lumped with multiman now[which is the shit]} but that being said we don't have any devs in this scene that want to push boundaries {true}, which is what we need to be done. So yes while I am sure as hell skeptical, if it turns out to be real, you can sure as hell bet I won't have a problem with them coming to the scene, piracy or not, show the scene what you can do.


I added some commentary in the above quote. Its in the [] and {}. Feel free to hate but they are my feelings. Piracy will run rampant no matter what anybody does. COBRA supports it and anybody else with cfw pretty much supports it also. Even if you haven't ever been to iso site. It WILL happen once you open up something like the ps3, your pc, og xbox or anything else. I mean can anybody sit here and seriously tell me they still have the original snes cart to beavis and butt-head, barts nightmare, t2 arcade game and street combat (real game which sucked ass) or any other rom they use their emulators for?

[naughtydog]

Good luck to them and hopefully they stay strong in the weeks to come. Seems SONY lawyers have disorganized every progress there was, they are all I blame each day.

[dignity67]

Highest power to these cats. I just hope square is involved!

[damox]

I will eat my hat if this amounts to anything.

Even their very first post contains the following:


We will eventually get the keys needed upgrade to newer ps3 firmware to play new games.

That's not how you will be playing new games (you wont be getting private keys ever again). :S

[sandungas]

I find no sense in making an announcement saying "no bullshit, no drama, etc..." and in the same text attacking or insulting other devs or teams
And i see their obejtives too high to acomplish for a new comers, the list is a resume of what "every" user wants (the list lacks "free PS3's for everyone" and "USB fleshlight support" j/k)

When talking about releases and legally and who cares about this... Well, the first ones that cares about are devs
If you want a sane PS3 scene the first ones that needs to be safe are devs... other way we (users) will have no scene, it doenst mind if you (an user) are "tired of..." and "tired of..." and "tired of..." <insert an crying icon there>
Egoist users dont care about it because they want releases and cant see that in a long term usually there are bigger goals that can be accomplished if devs keeps some discoveryes in secret for a few time
Im not saying that keeping things in secret is good, but there are things that must be released when there is no other way to to find another way-around to the problem
An unrelesed exploit/hack is like joker card hidden in his arm for a pocker player... he can use it only 1 time

Be carefull about false messiash's, there is alway some few in every scene, usually their purposes are good and they are honest, but usually are oportunist and have no good perspective of how the things works

[rednekcowboy]

An unrelesed exploit/hack is like joker card hidden in his arm for a pocker player... he can use it only 1 time

You mind explaining yourself a little more on this one? Who are the devs playing poker with exactly? What do they gain by holding back on a release or exploit? Why don't you enlighten us so that we can all understand this train of thought because, for the most part, I would say that almost everyone here disagrees with you.

[sandungas]

You mind explaining yourself a little more on this one? Who are the devs playing poker with exactly? What do they gain by holding back on a release or exploit? Why don't you enlighten us so that we can all understand this train of thought because, for the most part, I would say that almost everyone here disagrees with you.

A good example of unreleased things is a bootloader exploit that was tolk months ago in #ps3dev in efnet irc server... there was no much talk about it, only few comments for a very little circle of devs. Actually i guess this exploit is known by gitbrew team and is one of the "2 mistery ones" announced in his twitter

Why has not been released ?... well, propably they saw an oportunity to pwn the new PS3 3000 series.... or because is a good idea to wait for sony to make his move in the game of "mouse and cat" with new official firmware release with new protections, then use this old exploits to pwn the new firmware protections... or because it was not fully implemented... in fact im talking too much making this assumptions because we dont know the details
But im sure this will be released when needed or when fully squeezed... or when somebody find a replacement for the jocker

[GregoryRasputin]

I thought you were banned? ;)
And why would you care if the "release's" are legal or not?I dont care, it was only a question, but the retards took offense to me asking, silly little pirating whores and their pre menstural hating, also to end it, if this group was all about no drama, they would have just released something, instead of making a song and dance about it.

[rednekcowboy]

While I can see what you are saying, it still makes no sense.

Holding something back waiting for the next firmware is shooting yourself in the foot. Just like Math had the 3.60 keys and held onto them for so long that they ended up being useless to everyone because 3.70 fw came out with different keys.

The best thing for everyone is to release something when it's discovered. If it's not perfect, then you have a whole community of people to refine it and improve upon it. That is what a "scene" is all about, everyone chipping in and helping out, not a few hording what they have.

Take a look at the 360 scene and you'll see what I mean. They discovered this "reset glitch hack" and even tho it's not functional for the majority of the end users until they can get a dashboard on it, they released it anyways so the community as a whole could begin working on it.

[keropi666]

Good for them! it's about time someone tries to release stuff like dlc, npdrm etc...
I say good luck to them and whatever they release will be welcomed!

[havok7]

You go guys,some good m8s from ps3iso are in this team,so have a good start and best of luck,also the are some haters around,so i have only one thing to say to them
http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/11/16/1c6f9a79-d9b6-498c-8428-039760aba201.jpg

[mojo]

Damn what a scene drama !!!

I was/ "am" a ps3 jailbreaker from the first day. This day give me the love back too my hobby , to play game consoles after 3 years. I resarch from this day daily the news , infos etc. on the net and sometime a spoke with some devs from the scene. PS3/360/Wii ...

The main problem is the devs don´t have find any keys or other methods, too play Backups from the newer FWs.
It is not the problem afraid from Sony bla bla, this scene dont like Sony. In which ways Sony atacks the devs , Graf have big problems at the moment, really and the devs know that.

In the ps3 scene we can see , how strong are the devs really !!!

The 360 scene work everybody with heard and soul , i hope this scene comes same ...

[Dasanko]

I will eat my hat if this amounts to anything.

Even their very first post contains the following:



That's not how you will be playing new games (you wont be getting private keys ever again). :S

Private keys encrypt, public keys decrypt.

[dangwoot]

i wanna thank everyone for keeping this thread semi drama free.... everyone is entitled to their opinion and unlike the other "Scene" site we won't censor you for having an opinion just for having an outright war :D

so again thank you for everyone keeping everything in order ^_^

[damox]

Private keys encrypt, public keys decrypt.

Knowing this absolute pearler - how do you propose you produce a new CFW without the private keys to do so?

Sure you can get the public keys to decrypt games (but thats not a 3.6x+ CFW is it?)

[TheBlackHand]

All the piracy comments, if you don't agree....don't do it or use the feature. Simple stuff. What I wonder is why it's ok for 360, wii, ect, but sooo bad on PS3? It's not any better really or any different , it's a game console. I would be happy just being able to play new games without buying a new machine to do it, if the exploit or hack involves a piracy enabling feature I couldn't care less. I can buy a 360 game and play it on my modded system so it should be a possibility here.

[Mistawez]

While I can see what you are saying, it still makes no sense.

Holding something back waiting for the next firmware is shooting yourself in the foot. Just like Math had the 3.60 keys and held onto them for so long that they ended up being useless to everyone because 3.70 fw came out with different keys.

The best thing for everyone is to release something when it's discovered. If it's not perfect, then you have a whole community of people to refine it and improve upon it. That is what a "scene" is all about, everyone chipping in and helping out, not a few hording what they have.

Take a look at the 360 scene and you'll see what I mean. They discovered this "reset glitch hack" and even tho it's not functional for the majority of the end users until they can get a dashboard on it, they released it anyways so the community as a whole could begin working on it.

I don't think so, if sploits are released they can be patched (otherwise MS/Sony don't know it even exists).. If it's held back until it's fully functional then it has a better chance of success. The RGH for example (since you brought it up) is fully functional! The only people waiting on a rebooter are warez people (I'm not complaining), if you wanna run homebrew on your 13599 Xbox then you now can, if you wanna pirate Driver San Fran you can't (yet).. Yes, that's where things can be developed further, because we've a solid exploit to work from now, just time needs to be put in to port FSD to this method which is a piece of piss compared to finding the RGH in the first place.

If something is released when it's not finished there's a very good chance Sony/MS devs will explore it and patch it before we can make use of it. Whereas when it's fully finished and released you can decide will I stay on this FW or update and stay legit. Otherwise it's a case of update and hope the exploit doesn't get patched out before it's finished. e.g. Do you think MS knew about this RGH exploit and decided not to patch it? No, they knew sweet f*ck all about it until everybody can do it themselves, just like 3.41 or 3.55 FW.

Math not releasing 3.60 keys means that Sony will more than likely just change the keys but not the method to get them, so because he didn't release them, they didn't "fix" our (well, his) methods to get them which means we can get 3.70 keys now too, beside it's not like the keys don't decrypt the games requiring 3.60+ anymore we just had to wait.

Just saying what I think, I don't mean to sound like I'm suckin Math's dick, but if he's smart enough to get them in the first place, maybe he knows what he is doing! lol

Hope to hear some great releases from PS360, I'll defo keep an eye on their forums anyway. My pessimistic side will stay quiet for now..

[gDrive]

I don't think so, if sploits are released they can be patched.. If it's held back until it's fully functional then it has a better chance of success. The RGH for example (since you brought it up) is fully functional! The only people waiting on a rebooter are warez people, if you wanna run homebrew on your 13599 xbox then you now can, if you wanna pirate Driver San Fran you can't..

If something is released when it's not finished there's a very good chance Sony/MS devs will explore it and patch it before we can make use of it. Whereas when it's fully finished and released you can decide will I stay on this FW or update and stay legit. Otherwise it's a case of update and hope the exploit doesn't get patched out before it's finished.

Math not releasing 3.60 keys means that Sony will more than likely just change the keys but not the method to get them, so because he didn't release them, they didn't "fix" our (well, his) methods to get them which means we can get 3.70 keys now too, beside it's not like the keys don't decrypt the games requiring 3.60+ anymore we just had to wait.

Just saying what I think, I don't mean to sound like I'm suckin Math's dick, but if he's smart enough to get them in the first place, maybe he knows what he is doing! lol

Truthfully mate, you can't wait (for a long time) all the time to make 'the right move at the right time', especially in a fast-changing working environment, as some features or keys CAN AND WILL be rendered obsolete AND useless and therefore, if you're going to 'hoard things until they are ready', you have got to ask yourself these questions (my answers/opinions to these questions are mentioned below the questions).

Q1. WHEN is 'the right time' to release stuff in terms of timing?
A1. As soon as one finds out about the exploits so that everyone can work on it and break the security of the gaming system - after all, "what a man can make, a man can break".

Q2. HOW fast do the console manufacturers update their systems in order to patch up the security loopholes?
A2. We don't know until the console is in its first 12-24 months of its life, so we have to work on this as soon as possible and get cracking (unintended pun), but once we know the trend, we can decide how to deal with this and work accordingly.

[keropi666]

[...]

Math not releasing 3.60 keys means that Sony will more than likely just change the keys but not the method to get them, so because he didn't release them, they didn't "fix" our (well, his) methods to get them which means we can get 3.70 keys now too, beside it's not like the keys don't decrypt the games requiring 3.60+ anymore we just had to wait.

Just saying what I think, I don't mean to sound like I'm suckin Math's dick, but if he's smart enough to get them in the first place, maybe he knows what he is doing! lol

LOL math... long time to see his name mentioned... Let's assume math has said keys or a method to get them (I doubt BOTH btw) what's the point? NONE. He is not giving it anyone else and his is contributing NOWHERE. Who the hell cares if SONY can patch the hole if they know about it? NOONE knows about it currently and NOTHING ever came from it.
The NO-BS philosophy is the way to go , look at the 360 scene and how it evolved and you'll see it. Keeping exploits for yourself offers nothing else except some e-penis growth and a huge shitstorm from those that don't buy the "I've hacked it you n00bs but I 'aint tellin' ya how"

[GregoryRasputin]

i wanna thank everyone for keeping this thread semi drama free.... everyone is entitled to their opinion and unlike the other "Scene" site we won't censor you for having an opinion just for having an outright war :D


Oh i thought you enjoyed banning people for having an opinion.


Anyhow back on topic:

Warez all you want, rape children all you want, i really don't give a flying crap what the hell you do, its none of my business, but stop being so fucking blind.

These type of releases are whats adds fuel to Sony's point of view, they can say, yes we were justified for removing OtherOS, they will note the pirated games, they will note the stolen games from PSN amongst many other things, but what do i know, i don't have the pirate mentality, i don't believe that i deserve every damn thing handed to me on a silver platter, now thats all im seeing on the subject.

[gDrive]

Oh i thought you enjoyed banning people for having an opinion.


Anyhow back on topic:

Warez all you want, rape children all you want, i really don't give a flying crap what the hell you do, its none of my business, but stop being so fucking blind.

These type of releases are whats adds fuel to Sony's point of view, they can say, yes we were justified for removing OtherOS, they will note the pirated games, they will not the stolen games from PSN amongst many other things, but what do i know, i don't have the pirate mentality, i don't believe that i deserve every damn thing handed to me on a silver platter, now thats all im seeing on the subject.

In actual fact, ALL releases by a "niche group of weirdos", legitimate or otherwise, pisses Sony off - hence the "Humble Homebrew" movement by Youness Alaoui et al!

[Mistawez]

I understand there's a limit to how long you should hold an exploit, but look the iPhone, plenty of exploits are hoarded to keep breaking new FW's. If they released a bunch of exploits for one single firmware or too close together then we could run out of options. I see scenes as training grounds for proper devs, when Sony get pwnd they come back stronger than before.

I'd prefer to wait longer and get the 3.70 games too instead of rushing things, it's not all that long since the original PS3 exploits came out, and I think we're better off being patient until the rewards would be greater (i.e. wider range of games we'd have keys to). In saying that, if things stayed exactly as they are, I'm still delighted that I can run my own code on my own machine. There are repercussions to allowing CFW on PSN for example and I'm sure loads of legit users (quite likely devs too) would be annoyed that someone let it happen or if we could decrypt NPDRM and let loads of kids ruin online gaming.

FWIW, Math has discussed how to get keys (search for it) it's just that not many people possess the skills he has to actually get them.

I accept your points though, everyone's entitled to an opinion!

[gDrive]

I understand there's a limit to how long you should hold an exploit, but look the iPhone, plenty of exploits are hoarded to keep breaking new FW's. If they released a bunch of exploits for one single firmware or too close together then we could run out of options. I see scenes as training grounds for proper devs, when Sony get pwnd they come back stronger than before.

I'd prefer to wait longer and get the 3.70 games too instead of rushing things, it's not all that long since the original PS3 exploits came out, and I think we're better off being patient until the rewards would be greater (i.e. wider range of games we'd have keys to). In saying that, if things stayed exactly as they are, I'm still delighted that I can run my own code on my own machine. There are repercussions to allowing CFW on PSN for example and I'm sure loads of legit users (quite likely devs too) would be annoyed that someone let it happen or if we could decrypt NPDRM and let loads of kids ruin online gaming.

FWIW, Math has discussed how to get keys (search for it) it's just that not many people possess the skills he has to actually get them.

I accept your points though, everyone's entitled to an opinion!

Ahh, you're spot on with regards to MFW+PSN simultaneous usage! Now THAT would cause a riot for ALL PARTIES INVOLVED, underground or mainstream and then that would crash the whole scene! We're already stuck in the gutter with this scene at the moment and the first thing that should be on the priority list is resurrecting it.

Also, I think someone else has mentioned how to get them as well (well, more like repeating what Math has hinted, but yeah).

[GaryOPA]

Some people decided to start a new group so there is less or no drama, and the fact they decided to do so, causes drama.

As usual no one is able to handle the real truth.

People are judging this group just from a few words, noone knows what they are going to release, or if anything, or even when.

So far it just a bunch of people that want to work together and chat and figure things out.

Yet them do it in peace without all this mud-slinging and personal attacks.

If something happens then great, if nothing happens, no lost we are no worse off then we are at right now in this stage of the scene.

Come on guys and girls, learn to respect everyone and the sites that are out there.

Can no one handle the truth in news reporting?

This is over the top silly business!

Please everyone stay on topic at least, with no personal attacks!

[evilsperm]

I agree, everyone needs to cut out all this drama bullshit!
I can tell you that all the drama starters and the ones who keep fueling it like a bunch of assholes will drive away every single dev working the PS3... I for one could give two left testicles if this scene crashes and burns after seeing all this piddly shit talking!
Also I think all you drama starters better start to realize is that there are only a HANDFUL of devs in this scene!
So seriously cut it out already because more then a few of you have really pissed me off (yes we all know that's not hard to do) but I'm sick of reading he said she said garbage.

On that note, I say good luck to this start-up group and I hope you succeed where others have failed or didn't bother to try =)

[dignity67]

Info should be free.... Even if it's ufo sightings, ps3 keys or a certain persons cruciFICTION lol. Sorry if I offended anybody. Too many stories to go through on any subject though!

[AlbedoAtoned]

"FWIW, Math has discussed how to get keys (search for it) it's just that not many people possess the skills he has to actually get them."

Math is more talk, not enough walk. His only skill is to boast and show his e-penis.

More power to Team Ps360. Good luck.

[samdrlvt]

I really think the primary objective of this "statement" from Team PS360 is to get the collaboration of people to help break the 3.56+ frontiers. We must respect all efforts to break 3.56+ security and to that we know that not all people have the knowlegde or equipment needed to do that, for that i give kudos to Team PS360 and hope the scene could move foward.

Good luck to all people efforts to break 3.56+ "safe".

[nate1017]

i know coragin and he is a big bullshit talker he did promise the 3.6.0 cfw and then he didnt release a shit of it , he is just a bullshit talker.

and yes u can callculate 3.6.0 Privatekeys look at gitbrew they have a new sdk called frankensdk where u can sign 3.6.0 pkgs

[Dark Scyth]

Well, (sorry but I HAVE TO SAY THIS) i'm glad PS3Crunch bans arrogant assholes. I really don't understand how someone can be so arrogant, maybe they should take their head out of their ass sometime to take a breath once and awhile. As soon as Sony started suing over issues that weren't illegal, that's when we should of took a stand to not give a damn as to what was released, respecting a corporation I can understand but respecting one that will try to make a quick buck from suing over something that is completely legal, why should we care then? The way they act, they're a cancer to the scene, getting a point across, fine, I love to hear other opinions but never have I seen such a horrible way to get their point across. They don't like drama but for someone who feels that way, never have I seen such drama created. The thing I do love about PS3Crunch is that everyone here loves opinions and is laid back. The funny thing is, even if I didn't talk about them being banned, everyone would know what i'm talking about. So sorry for the long semi-off topic post but my god I had to get that off my mind.

[harryoke]

i would like to wish all the guys of ps360 the best of luck for the future...lets hope its a good one for all involved:loyal:

[gDrive]

Well, (sorry but I HAVE TO SAY THIS) i'm glad PS3Crunch bans arrogant assholes. I really don't understand how someone can be so arrogant, maybe they should take their head out of their ass sometime to take a breath once and awhile. As soon as Sony started suing over issues that weren't illegal, that's when we should of took a stand to not give a damn as to what was released, respecting a corporation I can understand but respecting one that will try to make a quick buck from suing over something that is completely legal, why should we care then? The way they act, they're a cancer to the scene, getting a point across, fine, I love to hear other opinions but never have I seen such a horrible way to get their point across. They don't like drama but for someone who feels that way, never have I seen such drama created. The thing I do love about PS3Crunch is that everyone here loves opinions and is laid back. The funny thing is, even if I didn't talk about them being banned, everyone would know what i'm talking about. So sorry for the long semi-off topic post but my god I had to get that off my mind.

Don't blame you pal!

Also, I didn't know that evilsperm is a moderator here - hiya dude and congrats!

[MrX4000]

I say " Good for them " It sure can't hurt anything .... Am I losing it ? Or in the top left corner of the screen does it now say PS360 Crunch ? Has it always said this ? I though this was PS3 Crunch before ? Or am I just not paying close enough attention ? Dam Booze ... ;)

[Mathieulh]

Well it seems various groups of different people and PS3 developers have gotten tried of all the recent site wars, and scene drama going on everyday on the forums and Twitter and as such have decided to make a fresh start and form a new team called PS360, that plans to be everything that the others so called 'Elites' have not been doing so far!


http://www.ps3crunch.net/forum/images/news/nobullshit.jpg

100% NO BULLSHIT OR DRAMA GROUP, RELEASE EVERYTHING WITH NO DELAYS ALSO, AND NEVER ASK FOR ANY DONATIONS EITHER!



Only time will tell if these people in fact live up to ther promises and do infact release stuff.
All tho, I see this annoucement causing more drama by itself. :)

NEWS SOURCE: Official Team PS360 Launch (http://ps360team.console-mods.net/showthread.php?3-Official-Launch-Team-PS360-Website.)

Thanks to our valued member Gamba for the Crunching news tip this evening.


Yet again one of these "To be released" teams, hell, in all the actual serious teams I've worked with, we only announced our existence WHEN we had something to release. I don't see them doing actual work, not to mention considering their members (see here http://ps360team.console-mods.net/showgroups.php) and that most are notoriously known for being warez mongrels, whiners, not knowing how to use linux, and not knowing how to compile a hello world, I seriously doubt we'll see anything out of them, like....err....ever.



This specific "Dev" I speak of


That said, I suppose the "Dev" they are referring to is me, as such they can drop the quotes considering I've actually done contributions to this scene, that I can prove it, and that I can show at least one (yes there are more but oh ! well...) project I wrote code for. (Hell, for the heck of it, here is one http://psx-scene.com/forums/f6/psp-ps3-pkg-decrypter-extractor-v-1-0-0-0-mathieulh-74756/ released with full sources, mind you)

Now I love how they claim to be all "no drama" but their whole "introduction" is an actual pamphlet against me, so much for a drama-free group eh ?


We are not saying we are better than anyone else or other teams out there, we are saying we will release info we find and will not let certain people blackmail us or try to strong arm us into not releasing. This dev should know who he is and others should know what we are talking about, to this dev, I say "Try to stop us!". Jerk.

Err... even if I remotely cared about it, or wanted to, I don't think that'll be necessary, it's quite impossible to stop something that's not moving.


This specific "Dev" I speak of is well known for "quitting" but still trying to pull the strings of others to get the e-fame he wants.

1. Contrary to popular beliefs, I couldn't give a damn about e-fame, if I wanted to have some I'd release tools for you to warez with.
2. I am not "pulling" any "strings" Feel free to prove otherwise.
3. At least I had something to "quit" about (meaning I had done something), what have YOU done ? Oh ! wait there is the answer right in your forums:



Team PS360 Releases
All our releases will be posted here as well as other sites. Do not ask for help here. Threads: 0 Posts: 0 Last Post: Never


(here's the link: http://ps360team.console-mods.net/forum.php)



We find this unacceptable and will no longer stand for it.


Good for you, not like this is going to do you much good, perhaps you should make a stance for providing actual work instead of sitting around all day whining and bitching about how people "hoard" on exploits and "stall" the scene eh ?



We will eventually get the keys needed upgrade to newer ps3 firmware to play new games. We have the background in enough various areas that we are confident this goal will be reached before anyone else will actually release it.


"Eventually" ?! Muhahahaha xD I'll "Eventually" become a billionaire.
Seriously, how could ps3crunch even frontpage this crap ?



My name is Coragin, other team members will introduce themselves as they see fit.


Congrats, you officially made it as douchebag of the month !

[gDrive]

I say " Good for them " It sure can't hurt anything .... Am I losing it ? Or in the top left corner of the screen does it now say PS360 Crunch ? Has it always said this ? I though this was PS3 Crunch before ? Or am I just not paying close enough attention ? Dam Booze ... ;)

The one thing I can say is: you're not drunk or dyslexic or high on hallucinogens! PS3Crunch and their members have decided to broaden their focus on the underground gaming scene by taking other gaming consoles into account and the changes have happened around late August 2011, hence the PS360Crunch name (haha sounds like another group (laugh out loud - no offence)).

[lightyear]

Yet again one of these "To be released" teams, hell, in all the actual serious teams I've worked with, we only announced our existence WHEN we had something to release. I don't see them doing actual work, not to mention considering their members (see here http://ps360team.console-mods.net/showgroups.php) and that most are notoriously known for being warez mongrels, whiners, not knowing how to use linux, and not knowing how to compile a hello world, I seriously doubt we'll see anything out of them, like....err....ever.



That said, I suppose the "Dev" they are referring to is me, as such they can drop the quotes considering I've actually done contributions to this scene, that I can prove it, and that I can show at least one (yes there are more but oh ! well...) project I wrote code for. (Hell, for the heck of it, here is one http://psx-scene.com/forums/f6/psp-ps3-pkg-decrypter-extractor-v-1-0-0-0-mathieulh-74756/ released with full sources, mind you)

Now I love how they claim to be all "no drama" but their whole "introduction" is an actual pamphlet against me, so much for a drama-free group eh ?



Err... even if I remotely cared about it, or wanted to, I don't think that'll be necessary, it's quite impossible to stop something that's not moving.



1. Contrary to popular beliefs, I couldn't give a damn about e-fame, if I wanted to have some I'd release tools for you to warez with.
2. I am not "pulling" any "strings" Feel free to prove otherwise.
3. At least I had something to "quit" about (meaning I had done something), what have YOU done ? Oh ! wait there is the answer right in your forums:



(here's the link: http://ps360team.console-mods.net/forum.php)



Good for you, not like this is going to do you much good, perhaps you should make a stance for providing actual work instead of sitting around all day whining and bitching about how people "hoard" on exploits and "stall" the scene eh ?



"Eventually" ?! Muhahahaha xD I'll "Eventually" become a billionaire.
Seriously, how could ps3crunch even frontpage this crap ?



Congrats, you officially made it as douchebag of the month !

you're an idiot, man...figure it out :)

[MrX4000]

I thought it sounded an awful lot like the new one .... thanks for clearing it up for me :D

[gDrive]

I thought it sounded an awful lot like the new one .... thanks for clearing it up for me :D

You're welcome pal!

@ Mathieu Hervais aka Mathieulh & lightyear - no offence but knock it off you two! We don't want another shitstorm now, and we don't want this thread to be rendered as "uncommentable", like the PS3Hax one!

Oh and to use Mathieulh's trademarked catchphrase: It's just my 2 cents!

[samdrlvt]

Just for the heck of it and for research purposes (Who is Who on PS3 Scene), here´s the man to love (Mathieulh):

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/62/mathieull1.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/402/mathieulh2.jpg/

[STE4Q2]

Yet again one of these "To be released" teams, hell, in all the actual serious teams I've worked with, we only announced our existence WHEN we had something to release. I don't see them doing actual work, not to mention considering their members (see here http://ps360team.console-mods.net/showgroups.php) and that most are notoriously known for being warez mongrels, whiners, not knowing how to use linux, and not knowing how to compile a hello world, I seriously doubt we'll see anything out of them, like....err....ever.



That said, I suppose the "Dev" they are referring to is me, as such they can drop the quotes considering I've actually done contributions to this scene, that I can prove it, and that I can show at least one (yes there are more but oh ! well...) project I wrote code for. (Hell, for the heck of it, here is one http://psx-scene.com/forums/f6/psp-ps3-pkg-decrypter-extractor-v-1-0-0-0-mathieulh-74756/ released with full sources, mind you)

Now I love how they claim to be all "no drama" but their whole "introduction" is an actual pamphlet against me, so much for a drama-free group eh ?



Err... even if I remotely cared about it, or wanted to, I don't think that'll be necessary, it's quite impossible to stop something that's not moving.



1. Contrary to popular beliefs, I couldn't give a damn about e-fame, if I wanted to have some I'd release tools for you to warez with.
2. I am not "pulling" any "strings" Feel free to prove otherwise.
3. At least I had something to "quit" about (meaning I had done something), what have YOU done ? Oh ! wait there is the answer right in your forums:



(here's the link: http://ps360team.console-mods.net/forum.php)



Good for you, not like this is going to do you much good, perhaps you should make a stance for providing actual work instead of sitting around all day whining and bitching about how people "hoard" on exploits and "stall" the scene eh ?



"Eventually" ?! Muhahahaha xD I'll "Eventually" become a billionaire.
Seriously, how could ps3crunch even frontpage this crap ?



Congrats, you officially made it as douchebag of the month !

The whole idea mathieulh, was to find people who were, willing or able to help forward the scene.... There are people who want to see progress, and not have people release things after they are useless, just to get a rise from people. (its nothing to do with your clouded judgement of warez)

But as for piracy, its been around since before you were born and the gaming industry is only getting bigger, therefore someone is lying to you or you're lying to yourself, the only diffrence now is certain game devlopers have got greedier (map paks, online passes or just polished versions of the previous year games, with new weapons or new rosters etc...)

P.s... this thread was drama free, untill you gave your "2 cents" calling people douchebags.

[Senaxx]

That said, I suppose the "Dev" they are referring to is me, as such they can drop the quotes considering I've actually done contributions to this scene, that I can prove it, and that I can show at least one (yes there are more but oh ! well...) project I wrote code for. (Hell, for the heck of it, here is one http://psx-scene.com/forums/f6/psp-ps3-pkg-decrypter-extractor-v-1-0-0-0-mathieulh-74756/ released with full sources, mind you)


It's not that they don't like you Math... and without you we wouldn't have the jailbreak we have now (or atleast not that fast after first youtube video), but the thing is that I and maybe some others dislike to see is constant referring to "look what I have done in the past / Without me you had nothing" That pk3 decrypter is from January... and it's not like you don't release anything but you are capable of so much more. And also a lot of people know you can do so much more, but don't want to release it (you have your reasons for it). You have the knowlegde that can help the "scene" progressing, and I think that's the thing that is people pissing of the most. But like you say yourself it's up to you that you release something or not.

Just my 2 cent's... not trying to flame you or something..

[Kyoristiano Kyoronaldo]

The excuse about ware thing is just to don t have to release because:
1- they don t have it
or
2- they are selling it between them self and don t want to ruin it if it s public
or
3- they are selling hardware piece instead of.
or
4- they just hate the end-user, you know the n00b (they call it kiddies warez also) who can have a life instead of learning assembler or others really essential life things.

Let s be a bit more specific,
The QA release pissed of someone who claim he was the one who discover, because he was enjoying everyday peoples s comments to figure out and how retarder they were. The QA things was already outdated since fews months. Release it or not will not change the future of the scene (since Sony already knew for sure it was figured out by somes)
The last public release of someone about bypass psn is a good example of theirs "release": they release outdated stuff or just before someone else will do.
The interest of keeping stuff for future release like someone was speaking as a joker is just a joke with that sort of mind.

The funny thing about the last leak about 3.60 sdk is also the comments with. Someone was really upset about it, saying it s not for public bla bla bla...
That capcom man who was the real leaker...yes for sure can be in big trouble, let s hope he s not talkative type ...but i guess he is .

Guess now puppets he was controlling will be running out of stuff...

And the most important:

Good luck for this team, at least they are trying.

[svenmullet]

drama

Welcome to ps3crunch, mathieulh. Please don't troll us. It's just a video game system.

[NuclearAqua]

What you'd know, Mattie is back.

How does a guy with 5 posts is recognized as a dev when he hasn't released a thing in ages?

http://gamearth.es/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Jackie-Chan-Meme-200x200.jpg


Kill it with fire. Quickly.

[Mathieulh]

What you'd know, Mattie is back.

How does a guy with 5 posts is recognized as a dev when he hasn't released a thing in ages?

http://gamearth.es/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Jackie-Chan-Meme-200x200.jpg


Kill it with fire. Quickly.

And what does the number of posts I have on this forum (full of whiners, noobs, warez mongrels and whatnot, hence why I don't post in here) have anything to do with my (actually quite extensive) contributions to this scene ?

This makes me wonder what have YOU released ?

[Grey_Wolf]

@Mathieulh
whiners, noobs, warez mongrels and whatnot"
Hmm, using and sharing official Sony tools stolen from secure Sony servers makes you a prophet?
(Tips: Durandal, CEX to DEX tools)

[NuclearAqua]

This makes me wonder what have YOU released ?

That argument is getting old, you know. I don't need to release anything to be "allowed" to criticise you, like I don't need to publish medical papers to be "allowed" to criticise a doctor who is holding back the cure for AIDS, for example.

Let's see if these words can finally enter your tiny brain: your past contributes don't atone for your current actions and attitudes.


Oh and stop saying "just my 2 cents" in every post and tweet you make. It makes you look dumb.

[samdrlvt]

And what does the number of posts I have on this forum (full of whiners, noobs, warez mongrels and whatnot, hence why I don't post in here) have anything to do with my (actually quite extensive) contributions to this scene ?

This makes me wonder what have YOU released ?

Mathieull, let´s face it: you like to grab a lot and promote angry among people! If we see your tweets, or your interventions (i will never forget the QA hints and cat and mouse mindgames), it is obvious that you need attention, a bad one, that´s right, but you never cease to talk about your accomplishments... you just need the e-fame!

We know you have the brains to do stuff, we now you have the machines needed, but you dont have the correct personality. You have too bad mojo on you. Maybe is a geek stuff, i dont know, but you dont have a healthy internet social skills...

See Kakaratos, a respected dev. He will not release anything related to CFW 3.70+, he´s only interested promoting homebrew. However he explain his goals in a good way....

The PS3 Scene maybe has somehow stopped, so... good for you!

[STE4Q2]

And what does the number of posts I have on this forum (full of whiners, noobs, warez mongrels and whatnot, hence why I don't post in here) have anything to do with my (actually quite extensive) contributions to this scene ?



You're posting now, but thats just to inflate your ego and bad mouth everyone else who is not in your close circle of "friends".
You really are oblivious to your actions.

Please leave the scene for good this time, thanx!

[Gamba]

Dear lord. Drama and drama again all over again. Please someone ban that fuck.

Mathieulh is just a troll - he won't give anything. Don't feed his ego - he doesn't care about the scene and nor ever cared. Someone close the thread before it goes in rampage again.

[Kyoristiano Kyoronaldo]

See Kakaratos, a respected dev. He will not release anything related to CFW 3.70+, he´s only interested promoting homebrew. However he explain his goals in a good way....

Promoting for monetizing them, direclty or not. He was begging Sony to be able to sell it officially for cfw, since he wasn t able to afford and take the risk for the regular way with sdk.
He didnt get what it wanted, Sony telling him to take some risk on his life (about coding ability they were polite enough to don t mention something about it) and from that, he just don t care to release something about 3.70 since dongles or e-fames aren t waiting or necessary anymore.
And because he thinks he s important, he s telling his political opinons (who are quite racist and simple) .
He can be a good friend with the one manipulated puppet who is now really running out of stuff.

[sabin1981]

Yet more drama. I don't know about Gary or Dang, but I'm definitely getting sick of it. Closed since certain people don't know how to play well with others and insist on pissing on everything. If Gary and Dang want the thread open again when they come online, it will be open, but until then; go home.

[dangwoot]

i'm reopening this thread just for the simple fact that i love to see all the shit math posts his ego is bigger than his brain and he is nothing more then a legend in his own mind....

he said on irc last night ( yep i was there i'm also a ps360 team member) and i quote
" even if i did release a hack within a week no one would remember who gave it to them "

Gee sounds to me like all you care about is feeding your own ego you piece of shit.

[dangwoot]

oh and your so called big hint about vm0 is garbage!

[lightyear]

oh and your so called big hint about vm0 is garbage!
hahahaha...vm0 lulz....bullsh*t :p I lol'd when he told me that one!!

thanks for nothing :rolleyes:

[dangwoot]

sup LY :D welcome to the crunch! aka ps3crunch aka 360crunch aka consolecrunch aka dramacrunch lol

[lightyear]

follow team ps360:

twitter
@ps360team

efnet
#ps360team

[STE4Q2]

I've got to admit, its funny seeing math hang himself with his own words.....


oh and your so called big hint about vm0 is garbage!

wait lol!! hes sending people in the wrong direction again, shock horror!! :stupid:

The only thing i've seen him contribute, is to the downfall of the scene, simple as!!

(I'll stop feeding him now)

[chocobo]

And what does the number of posts I have on this forum (full of whiners, noobs, warez mongrels and whatnot, hence why I don't post in here) have anything to do with my (actually quite extensive) contributions to this scene ?

This makes me wonder what have YOU released ?

I always wondered... did it feel really bad when you realized that someone like Graf is so much more smarter than you, and was able to understand PS3 much better than you ever did with all your insider knowledge and years of headstart?

I guess it hurts, no?

Tell us how you really feel, kiddo.

[dangwoot]

lol rip him a new one!!

pathetic little creep has to obey his overlord daddy!

[lightyear]

he still isn't banned yet?!?!?!?!

[MrX4000]

OK ?? So this very quickly turned into a bash Math thread ? ... That all aside ... I've been to the new site / forum / group .... I'm just a little confused .. is it simply a place to have everyone in one area and have projects kept privately (Until something is found of course) This could really happen at any site correct ?? I hope they get everything they are looking for ie DEVs ... ;)

[dangwoot]

nah let him post it'll be interesting to see if he drops any more hints out his oversized ass.

[lightyear]

OK ?? So this very quickly turned into a bash Math thread ? ... That all aside ... I've been to the new site / forum / group .... I'm just a little confused .. is it simply a place to have everyone in one area and have projects kept privately (Until something is found of course) This could really happen at any site correct ?? I hope they get everything they are looking for ie DEVs ... ;)

no, we are a well-organized group of people all working to try to make progress in the scene since most other people don't seem to wanna do anything. Or if they have, they don't release it until it's worthless to anyone who gets their hands on it.

[dangwoot]

indeed we are a pretty close team who works to help each other and the community as a whole, we don't have time to argue over who's got the biggest dick....

[lightyear]

indeed we are a pretty close team who works to help each other and the community as a whole, we don't have time to argue over who's got the biggest dick....

I do...we all know it lmfao :p

[gDrive]

sup ly :d welcome to the crunch! Aka ps3crunch aka 360crunch aka consolecrunch aka gcrunch aka dramacrunch lol

pmsl!!!!!!

[2die4]

Sony cares more about Linux then piracy / homebrew. IBM contracts.

[Mathieulh]

he still isn't banned yet?!?!?!?!

Surprised eh ? Unlike you, the admins here seem to actually have a brain. (Just my 2 cents)

[Mathieulh]

nah let him post it'll be interesting to see if he drops any more hints out his oversized ass.

Oh ! I am sure it'll be interesting to you, mostly because that team of yours cannot even dream of achieving anything without these hints, as you cannot even drop those from your own "oversized ass".... (Which by the way, is truly pathetic)

[Sonic-Iso]

Team PS360 huh? man how funny would it be if all apps from that team never made it on xbins?

[Mathieulh]

indeed we are a pretty close team who works to help each other and the community as a whole, we don't have time to argue over who's got the biggest dick....

"Work" ? What "Work"? You must be kidding right ?
you don't "have time to argue over who's got the biggest dick" Isn't that what that whole introduction pamphlet (the one openly flaming me) is all about ? You'd need to have a sizable one though I guess, well to be honest I am not sure about your "dick" but as far as the brain is concerned, you and the members of that little group of yours seem to seriously be lacking. (Or you aren't using it, which in any cases bares the same results)

[Sonic-Iso]

"Work" ? What "Work"? You must be kidding right ?
you don't "have time to argue over who's got the biggest dick" Isn't that what that whole introduction pamphlet (the one openly flaming me) is all about ? You'd need to have a sizable one though I guess, well to be honest I am not sure about your "dick" but as far as the brain is concerned, you and the members of that little group of yours seem to seriously be lacking. (Or you aren't using it, which in any cases bare the same results) jesus math you havent heard? they got a 3.70 CFW and dont wanna share!!!

[master737373]

Also, it's pointless for a flamewar every time math posts. It happens every time and leads to a closed thread.

[Mathieulh]

no, we are a well-organized group of people all working to try to make progress in the scene since most other people don't seem to wanna do anything. Or if they have, they don't release it until it's worthless to anyone who gets their hands on it.

Drop the act, you aren't "working" on anything, to do so, you'd need to know how to actually work.
Your results right now = 0 (that's the amount of releases and documentations you have released so far) no matter how much air you brass on these forums, 0*0 is still equal to 0 and 0+0 is also equal to 0, this literally translates into "nothing".
Well, you get the idea.

On the other end, "most other people" actually released and contributed more than you ever did (and will ever do...) We might not want to "share anything" but at least we do have something to share, yet again you have.... 0 aka Nothing.

Perhaps you ought to buy yourself a mirror and go visit a shrink, then you'd be able to see that something is seriously wrong with you and that logic of yours (or rather the lack of it).

[dangwoot]

math you can take your ego and shove it up your fucking ass i don't give two shits what you think about me...

so in short,
Fuck you and have a nice day!

[GaryOPA]

V3.70, were have you guys been, I long pass that point.

Anyhow FINAL CHAPTER

This thread will remain FOREVER CLOSE

I have to agree with Mathieulh and Sonic-ISO and others that have some real brains!

Nothing more needs to be discussed regarding this as it just going to be same stuff over and over at this point.

We all have stated our personal opinions and lets leave it at that.

Plain and Simple.