Well even tho, new sources are not calling this a Rumor, I have decided to do so, but there could be alot of truth in the matter, Sony has grow tried of the all the Jailbreak'ers, Cheat Devices, OtherOS++ Users and not to mention the lack of name-brand sales due to slipping behind in the marketplace with the new toys that the Microsoft has added to its X360 Brand, mainly the highly successful sales of Kinect device which has been alot higher then Sony's Move sales, and not to mention the downfall of their PSN Network with over a month of off-line and millions of dollars in damages.
Sony to start production of PS4 at end of 2011, say Taiwan makers
Aaron Lee, Taipei; Adam Hwang, DIGITIMES [Monday 4 July 2011]
Sony will have Taiwan-based partners begin production of PlayStation 4 (PS4) featuring body movement-based control like Kinect at the end of 2011 for launch in 2012, according to Taiwan-based component makers.
Foxconn and Pegatron Technology, assemblers of PS3, will undertake assembly of PS4 as well, the sources pointed out. The planned shipment volume of PS4 in 2012 is at least 20 million units, the sources indicated.
Time will only tell if the taiwanese sources are right, but they not been wrong before, normally if Foxconn leaks something it does happen in the near future!
Thanks to quincyarc for submitting us this great rumor story today!
JONSTA
07-04-2011, 05:29 PM
Wow i did not expect that,thought the ps3 still had a long way to go yet.
I wonder how long they have been working on this? Do you think we will get 3.60 custom firmware before they release PS4 LOL:)EDIT....thanks for the news
Mistawez
07-04-2011, 07:10 PM
How sure are they that it'll be PS4 and not PS3 3000 series? I suppose that's why it's a rumour..
wizdumb
07-04-2011, 08:01 PM
Hmm. Ps4 huh? I'm curious to know what its specs will be.
Crunch_90
07-04-2011, 10:27 PM
I too thought the ps3 had a fair few years left in her . . . .
Shame more money i need to save lol
Lets hope its not a rumor
Dante
07-07-2011, 09:34 PM
I hope they don't make the PS4 to soon, the PS3 still has a lot going for it!
CloneD
07-10-2011, 03:47 AM
I agree, I hope they don't go through with this PS4 just yet. It seems like it might be a mistake to bring it out while the PS3 still has another 3 (at the least) shelf years. I'm happy with the 4 PS3's I got.(2 slim and 2 Phat) I have a big family. :)
If they do come out with it, I would say it better have mad backwards compatibility or it will probably fail miserably. I hate to think that but....
caveman
07-10-2011, 01:08 PM
i wonder how long we will have to wait for a jailbreak on that one =)
hahaha
master737373
07-10-2011, 09:55 PM
I keep saying this, i don't see why a PS4 should be made. What can they improve in the PS3 except for HDD potential capacity, or even better, an SSD, they can't improve graphics since no one should have a 2K or 4K TV. RAM can be increased. CPU could be better. Firewire. Oh and the kicker: homebrew and OtherOS.
random#guy
07-11-2011, 01:48 PM
^The only major perks I would want from new hardware are 60fps native 1080p for more games and full software-based PS2 BC so I can play all my PS2 games in glorious HD. Otherwise I really don't want to be rushed into the next generation.
master737373
07-12-2011, 12:04 AM
Hey Gary, you might wanna update this article with this supposed leaked official PS4 trailer. So far it's gotten over 2million views. Who knows the validity of it, but so far, this trailer looks NICE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyFmxNLH0YA
Pockets69
07-12-2011, 07:20 AM
nice mockup. its impossible for the machine to launched in 2012, where is the so called unhackable machine sony was supposed to launch? if they did launch we are still going to see the ps3 at least until 2013.
STE4Q2
09-10-2011, 10:12 AM
Im ready for ps4, there is more shelf life with the ps3, agreed!! but thats why previous consoles overlaped. So unless you wanna pay full whack at launch (like I did ps3) then its best it gets released 2012/13 (xmas)
The way ps3 handles Ram (512 lmfao, my ipad has more!) is attrocious, we cant even do cross game chat because of it etc....
Bring it on I say cos I dont wanna buy it straight from sony, it will have to be 2nd hand, im not puttin $$$ directly in sonys pocket.
B3nji
09-10-2011, 10:48 AM
Wouldn't u be led to believe there pushing for it because the ps3 is wide open. "we"didn't conform to them so they release new hardware, to generate revenue. Games new tech, new innovations. They have to be ahead of the curve. I respect there decision to abandon the ps3 and move forward. A lot has happened to them in the past year.
Nonetheless I'll buy one, prolly used, and rip the baby apart. After all what good is a black box that controlles what u do. We buy the system we should be able to do what we want to it even if it violates there t.o.s. Who needs psn anyways. My system is and anever will be online.
They want to spy on the end users. Putting cameras as controllers, monitoring ur use of the system. Maybe I'm paranoid, maybe not. But let's not lose focus on what's important. The games themselves. I respect game producers. I own every game I back up because people work hard to make that shit and deserve the money for working on it.
Only reason the ps3 was hacked open is because they took Linux from us with the 3.41 update. (I believe it was 3.41). And a awesome group F0, took it upon them selves to hack the system. All is back ups and cfw came as a direct result of there hard work they put into the system, and laid the ground work for all the awesome devs that added to it. Graf, math, gitbrew, square, dean, I'm sure there are tons I missed. People say Linux in pointless, well Linux is the reason to can use home brew. My 2 cents.
GaryOPA
09-10-2011, 11:07 AM
Hey Gary, you might wanna update this article with this supposed leaked official PS4 trailer. So far it's gotten over 2million views. Who knows the validity of it, but so far, this trailer looks NICE
More like almost 4 million views.
I am sure that was one of the first 3D is coming to PS3 commericals shown only in Japan.
gDrive
09-10-2011, 11:07 AM
Correction: Linux was confiscated from us from firmware version 3.21.
ATRfate
09-10-2011, 02:44 PM
I keep saying this, i don't see why a PS4 should be made. What can they improve in the PS3 except for HDD potential capacity, or even better, an SSD, they can't improve graphics since no one should have a 2K or 4K TV. RAM can be increased. CPU could be better. Firewire. Oh and the kicker: homebrew and OtherOS.
Alot of the PS3 System can be vastly improved. The RSX For example was out of date in the computer realm the second it was mentioned to be used on the ps3. its effectively a 7800 with a bit of modification, Somethings that are currently wrong with the ps3 that can be improved
On the 360 and on the PS3 not a single game RENDERS in HD, Black ops for example runs at 800x600 resolution and is upscaled to 1080p and 720 This is due to 2 reasons
the lack of ram on both systems for a full HD textures
the lack of space on 360 disc's (most games are ports direct ports)
While I am not going to knock the Cell BE As when used correctly is quite a power house, however they would be better with a straight upquad or tri core ( since most games are ports they are not optimized for the system, leading to issues bayonetta for example is bad on ps3with out a patch ) So but having hardware that's easier to code for, you in turn get more 3rd party support
With more ram, easier to use processer and a better Gpu you gain
True 1080p in all games (maybe even full 1080p in 3d)
Anti-Aliasing
Antisopic filtering
More 3rd party support'
steadier frame rates
what dose all this mean! here is a side by side of crysis 2
http://gamingbolt.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/crysis-2-2-611x1024.jpg
master737373
09-10-2011, 06:11 PM
On the 360 and on the PS3 not a single game RENDERS in HD, Black ops for example runs at 800x600 resolution and is upscaled to 1080p and 720 This is due to 2 reasonsThere are PS3 games that renders HD. FF XIII, for example, is in fact in full HD. While it was supposed to be exclusive, it was ported to 360 and the 360 can't handle 1080p so it's in 720p. GT5 is also full HD.
gDrive
09-10-2011, 06:41 PM
Simply put, the hardware and how it has been utilized affects the end-product - however, since the launch of the PS3 (and one/two years from there), I don't think most of the game companies managed to be able to fully utilize its hardware mainly due to its complexity and therefore, most of the games looked pretty crap in comparison to the Xbox 360 versions of the same game.
ATRfate
09-10-2011, 06:47 PM
There are PS3 games that renders HD. FF XIII, for example, is in fact in full HD. While it was supposed to be exclusive, it was ported to 360 and the 360 can't handle 1080p so it's in 720p. GT5 is also full HD.
Sorry GT5 IS not True HD It runs at 1280x1080 Thus not Full HD 1920x1080p so it is still unscaled Some and I mean some sports titles do intact run in full 1080 only because of the limited amount of textures needed to achieve it, racing games can also sometimes get by with this, but GT5 is not one of them
I am not 100% on FFX13, however one thing i know about the title is the cut-scenes are infact 1080p, and on the 360 they are 560p (i belive due to disc limits ) that dose not by any means mean the game play is.
Quick Edit, It is above 720p but not full 1080p is all I mean it has the vertical 1080p res but not the horizontal
Simply put, the hardware and how it has been utilized affects the end-product - however, since the launch of the PS3 (and one/two years from there), I don't think most of the game companies managed to be able to fully utilize its hardware mainly due to its complexity and therefore, most of the games looked pretty crap in comparison to the Xbox 360 versions of the same game.
My post wasn't saying that the ps3 games don't look very good , in fact alot of the proper big name titles, Batman,unreal,mortal kombat, and a personal favorite darksiders look just as good if not better than the 360 counter part either way with the wii U looming over their heads they have to produce some sort of product to market and I am a total PC fan boy so most of the time consoles don't do it for me.
retro4ever
09-10-2011, 07:08 PM
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1113342
master737373
09-10-2011, 07:15 PM
I am not 100% on FFX13, however one thing i know about the title is the cut-scenes are infact 1080p, and on the 360 they are 560p (i belive due to disc limits ) that dose not by any means mean the game play is.Lol I can tell you the gameplay isn't 1080p but all the cutscenes and opening movie are 1080p. Just like GT5's resolution is 1920x1080 in places like showrooms and the garage. Also Viking is in 1920x1080. What I'm getting at is, it has the power already.
ATRfate
09-10-2011, 07:21 PM
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1113342
that Is a very nice link! alot of information there
Lol I can tell you the gameplay isn't 1080p but all the cutscenes and opening movie are 1080p. Just like GT5's resolution is 1920x1080 in places like showrooms and the garage. Also Viking is in 1920x1080. What I'm getting at is, it has the power already.
No it dosen not have the power and that proves it playing 1080P video can be done easily on Intel atom duel core processors cloaked at 1.6giz so if the games have to upscale 1080 in all major gameplay elements than they clearly cant handle it and even with the res set at 1920x1080p you might not have full HD textures like in my crysis 2 picture. If the system can handle it than gameplay would be at the same level.
master737373
09-10-2011, 07:32 PM
No it dosen not have the power and that proves it playing 1080P video can be done easily on Intel atom duel core processors cloaked at 1.6giz so if the games have to upscale 1080 in all major gameplay elements than they clearly cant handle it and even with the res set at 1920x1080p you might not have full HD textures like in my crysis 2 picture. If the system can handle it than gameplay would be at the same level.That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying for THOSE games I just listed, it's not 1920x1080 during gameplay but there are games that are 1920x1080 during gameplay, like FIFA and Sacred 2.
ATRfate
09-10-2011, 07:43 PM
Yea but again with those games you have to look at what they are, sports games and Am Assuming scared 2 can use tricks to get real 1080, however only games with certain plattes can where with fifa you can use one big HD texture for a Field, and repeat and wrap it I havent Played scared but I found this image if you look at the grass you can see it repeats it self even in shading outside of where the tree's are beacuse they do infact draw there own shadows. Next Iv found images of the character models, and they have a very low polygon count
Now I am not going to be a Game nazi And say it looks bad, infact form the pictures it looks like next time i go to the flea market I might pick it up. That being said the game also docent have the highly detailed character models and dynamic backgrounds that most games have so when you cut down Quality you can increase quantity (in this case quantity of pixels )
Side note Is this game any good? because I don't Trust any review site they get paid off to much ha.
master737373
09-10-2011, 07:48 PM
Side note Is this game any good? because I don't Trust any review site they get paid off to much ha.It's ok imo. I wouldn't rush for it.
ATRfate
09-10-2011, 07:58 PM
I dont Rush for much offtopic, But We buy alot of Storage lockers, and run a store in a flea market I just snag all video game stuff I can Quick Edit I feel the need to say, my family's been doing this since 92 and those fucking TV shows in the last few years have made the prices go to retarded levels.
gDrive
09-10-2011, 09:11 PM
Beyond3D Forum - View Single Post - List of Rendering Resolutions + basics on hardware scaling, MSAA, framebuffers: http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1113342
+REP for that retro4ever!
However, it's a shame that nearly all console games on the PS3 and the Xbox 360 don't render games in 1920x1080 resolution - but that's because of the aforementioned reasons! :(
gDrive
09-10-2011, 10:53 PM
I don't think this is (wholly) true!
However, I love the concept design! :D
dignity67
09-11-2011, 01:46 AM
i rented a panasonic 3d0 one time when i was younger and for some reason i still think it was way better than the stuff we got now. Maybe it's the fact the games had live action gameplay, almost like playing an arcade game in your house. The game that sticks out in my mind is a drug war game it was the shit!
xPreatorianx
09-11-2011, 01:59 AM
I doubt it's true. Why would they make an "unhackable" unit just to release a brand new PS4 come a year later? That makes no sense. They would be losing more money in R&D, improved security, etc, then to just let it ride and wait for their new console. So I believe this is BS. It just doesn't make sense. Why waste money to fix a hacked console, only to turn around and release a new console a year later? I mean really? Complete waste. I don't believe one word of it.
Plus compared to the 360 - the PS3 hasn't been maxed out yet. At least from what I've heard. I remember a few devs saying the PS3 hasn't been maxed out. But the 360 has. Maybe rage is gonna change this, or those devs haven't went on record to update that little statistic. who knows. But I highly doubt PS4 is coming out. They've only just started R&D. It's way to soon to come out of R&D and go from prototype to production. They'll end up with massive design faults. On levels not even the 360 has had. Which we all know releasing too soon caused the BS with the 360.
dignity67
09-11-2011, 02:02 AM
I doubt it's true. Why would they make an "unhackable" unit just to release a brand new PS4 come a year later? That makes no sense. They would be losing more money in R&D, improved security, etc, then to just let it ride and wait for their new console. So I believe this is BS. It just doesn't make sense. Why waste money to fix a hacked console, only to turn around and release a new console a year later? I mean really? Complete waste. I don't believe one word of it.
Plus compared to the 360 - the PS3 hasn't been maxed out yet. At least from what I've heard. I remember a few devs saying the PS3 hasn't been maxed out. But the 360 has. Maybe rage is gonna change this, or those devs haven't went on record to update that little statistic. who knows. But I highly doubt PS4 is coming out. They've only just started R&D. It's way to soon to come out of R&D and go from prototype to production. They'll end up with massive design faults. On levels not even the 360 has had. Which we all know releasing too soon caused the BS with the 360.
For real, Im with you bro!
afiser
09-11-2011, 06:19 AM
Yup, this is probably just a reincarnation of the current ps3, which, given the way they re-released the psp so many times, im sure thats what this is about.
but to those who said the ps3 couldn't really be improved, you are horribly mistaken.
1. its a bitch for devs to develop for it (this is a HUGE thing, impacts performance, release dates, etc.)
2. the CELL BE is cool(expensive) when used properly, but really not necessary for gaming purposes. just use a simpler CPU (doubt they will do this on the next console as to keep backwards compatibility for ps3 games, AKA another CELL of some sort)
3. the ram is atrociously low (a laughable 256mb main and 256 graphics.. wow.)
4. while the GPU is fine for a gaming console, it could use an update for obvious better performance.
5. they support no homebrew games/apps at all (such as the AppStore or Android Market. i really see this as a big thing in the future of consoles given the popularity of it for mobile devices.)
6. other things im sure people could find that could be re-done or updated.
PLAYER 1
09-11-2011, 11:54 PM
So... how could Sony to improve ps3 while R&D a PS4 ?
Using the 8th core ???
Remapping the RAM ???
Overclocking the RSX ???
Creating new, better and easier tools for developers ???
Changing its marketing strategic ???
Opening its system to homebrew an mobility ???
You add yours...
In my opinion, Sony is running blind, WE have to say what WE want from OUR console.
KIthunder
09-21-2011, 04:15 PM
xPreatorianx
Are devs bothered to max it out the ps3? when the attachment rate of games on the 360 is higher and cheaper to develop for with time/money constraints of deadlines. So unless its an exclusive I can't see the bar being pushed that far.
I know a lot has changed as ps3 multi-platfrom games are better than the atrocity that sega ported over from the 360 bayonetta.
It just reminds me of last gen when some multi-platform ps2 games would looker poorer than the DC counterparts, when Ps2 was the superior machine but its Emotion Engine made games harder to get right due to the steep curve.
360/DC had better graphics component with AA and scaling, which has helped keep up and some cases outshine the Ps3/2.
xPreatorianx
09-21-2011, 06:57 PM
Alot of the PS3 System can be vastly improved. The RSX For example was out of date in the computer realm the second it was mentioned to be used on the ps3. its effectively a 7800 with a bit of modification, Somethings that are currently wrong with the ps3 that can be improved
On the 360 and on the PS3 not a single game RENDERS in HD, Black ops for example runs at 800x600 resolution and is upscaled to 1080p and 720 This is due to 2 reasons
the lack of ram on both systems for a full HD textures
the lack of space on 360 disc's (most games are ports direct ports)
While I am not going to knock the Cell BE As when used correctly is quite a power house, however they would be better with a straight upquad or tri core ( since most games are ports they are not optimized for the system, leading to issues bayonetta for example is bad on ps3with out a patch ) So but having hardware that's easier to code for, you in turn get more 3rd party support
With more ram, easier to use processer and a better Gpu you gain
True 1080p in all games (maybe even full 1080p in 3d)
Anti-Aliasing
Antisopic filtering
More 3rd party support'
steadier frame rates
what dose all this mean! here is a side by side of crysis 2
http://gamingbolt.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/crysis-2-2-611x1024.jpg
EHM, the 360 version of games aren't ports. that's the PS3 version. Most multiplat titles are designed on the 360 and then ported to PS3. While PC get's the shaft everytime.
EDIT: NVM I see the context now. Still I don't believe any videos that come out, any press, etc. It's all just rumors. The PS4 is still in conceptual and prototyping stages. It won't make a 2012 release. I guarantee that. Not unless Sony wants to have problems that rival even the RROD. If they release a new console in 2021, expect it to have far worse problems then M$ has ever had in hardware problems.
Likewise I won't be buying a Sony console from a retailer ever again. They don't deserve my money. They have consistently proven that they are only interested in the money. They don't give a shit about their users at all. The TOS proves that. So I'll buy one on ebay when it comes out.
Most multiplat games look like shit on PS3 compared to 360. It's not the fault of the hardware, but the developers. They are too lazy.
master737373
09-21-2011, 07:12 PM
EDIT: NVM I see the context now. Still I don't believe any videos that come out, any press, etc. It's all just rumors. The PS4 is still in conceptual and prototyping stages. It won't make a 2012 release. I guarantee that. Not unless Sony wants to have problems that rival even the RROD. If they release a new console in 2021, expect it to have far worse problems then M$ has ever had in hardware problems.I HOPE they don't release a new home console until around 2014. People say that Sony should follow the 8 year life span of generations, but if they release it in 2012, prepare for a console of problems. Hardware problems.
xPreatorianx
09-21-2011, 07:20 PM
I HOPE they don't release a new home console until around 2014. People say that Sony should follow the 8 year life span of generations, but if they release it in 2012, prepare for a console of problems. Hardware problems.
Exactly.
xPreatorianx
Are devs bothered to max it out the ps3? when the attachment rate of games on the 360 is higher and cheaper to develop for with time/money constraints of deadlines. So unless its an exclusive I can't see the bar being pushed that far.
I know a lot has changed as ps3 multi-platfrom games are better than the atrocity that sega ported over from the 360 bayonetta.
It just reminds me of last gen when some multi-platform ps2 games would looker poorer than the DC counterparts, when Ps2 was the superior machine but its Emotion Engine made games harder to get right due to the steep curve.
360/DC had better graphics component with AA and scaling, which has helped keep up and some cases outshine the Ps3/2.
TBH both machines are equally powerful. The 360 doesn't have an advantage at all. Well it has a slight one. But not enough to warrant crappier games. The fact is the actual hardware on the PS3 and it's complexity leads to crappy games on the PS3. The development complexity is the reason why PS3 hasn't been fully used to 100%. In all honesty they may never use the full capabilities of the console.
EDIT: Also if anyone believes the picture on wikipedia for the PS4 - I'll ROFL. Looks like yet another fan made mockup. It doesn't even come close to sharing a resemblance to any Sony product. If you look at the PS1, PS2, and PS3, you can honestly say "ya that's a sony product." At their core they do share a similar design philosophy. That mockup doesn't. None whatsoever. Therefore it's 100% fake. Sony wouldn't do something like that.
gDrive
09-22-2011, 05:33 AM
Exactly.
TBH both machines are equally powerful. The 360 doesn't have an advantage at all. Well it has a slight one. But not enough to warrant crappier games. The fact is the actual hardware on the PS3 and it's complexity leads to crappy games on the PS3. The development complexity is the reason why PS3 hasn't been fully used to 100%. In all honesty they may never use the full capabilities of the console.
EDIT: Also if anyone believes the picture on wikipedia for the PS4 - I'll ROFL. Looks like yet another fan made mockup. It doesn't even come close to sharing a resemblance to any Sony product. If you look at the PS1, PS2, and PS3, you can honestly say "ya that's a sony product." At their core they do share a similar design philosophy. That mockup doesn't. None whatsoever. Therefore it's 100% fake. Sony wouldn't do something like that.
Although that design is DEFINITELY FAKE and merely a concept design, it looks sleek in my opinion, but the design isn't obviously final!
Going to Master737373's comment now, I have to agree with what he said regarding releasing the console and hardware-related issues - if they don't take their time to release their next console then they are royally screwed.
ATRfate
09-23-2011, 03:33 PM
EHM, the 360 version of games aren't ports. that's the PS3 version. Most multiplat titles are designed on the 360 and then ported to PS3. While PC get's the shaft everytime.
EDIT: NVM I see the context now. Still I don't believe any videos that come out, any press, etc. It's all just rumors. The PS4 is still in conceptual and prototyping stages. It won't make a 2012 release. I guarantee that. Not unless Sony wants to have problems that rival even the RROD. If they release a new console in 2021, expect it to have far worse problems then M$ has ever had in hardware problems.
Likewise I won't be buying a Sony console from a retailer ever again. They don't deserve my money. They have consistently proven that they are only interested in the money. They don't give a shit about their users at all. The TOS proves that. So I'll buy one on ebay when it comes out.
Most multiplat games look like shit on PS3 compared to 360. It's not the fault of the hardware, but the developers. They are too lazy.
Yea you got mixed Up by ports , I mean devloped 1st on 360 and than put on the ps3, and yes I do agree fully, that the devoploers are lazy, their are a few games, that I think to be better on the PS3 and it shows that they took the time more so with the game
one to come to mind is darksiders. I got it for the 360 it had alot of slowdown in combat on the ps3 this frame-rate issue is
"mostly" Gone
Where another great game like bayonetta was unplayable on the ps3 till they fixed it with a patch.
Bottom Line I believe fully that ps4 is coming alot sooner than people think, id say around late 2012-2013, the fact of the matter is they have to compete with Nintendo, while alot of people see the wiiu As I joke, I for one think the touch screen being use for things like inventory's is really a cleaver idea and It's a Nintendo product Id say its safe to say it will be very durable. So sony and mircosoft will want to push their console before they lose to much market share to Nintendo's product. As said, I am a semi Nintendo fanboy tho, I bought my wii launch day and it still works flawlessly. along with all of my other Nintendo systems in my game collection. So the fact that they make products that work well are going to finally come up with an HD console for me its a dream without the threat of my RROD xbox.
Dreamcast announced 1998
Playstation 2 Its development was announced in March 1999
Dreamcast released November 27, 1998
Playstation 2 released March 4, 2000
I understand this is a small sample on 2 consoles, But Dreamcast was set into market and was a great system with some flaws, but it pushed sony to release their console withing a year and a half if you look at all release dates their is a pattern With wii u to launch in 2012 mircoshit (I hate xbox sorry :/) 4 RROD consoles within 2 months will do that to you. $ony who I agree with you I wont be buying any "new" products from. will be forced to come up with something.
Quick Edit, And yes the PC dose it fucked hard, that being said games do look better on the pc if you have even a half decent one you can nearly build a gaming machine for at the cost of a 320gb ps3
The computer I built for my little brother was 430$ 1 year ago with the pricing on those parts in todays market id say would be around 350$
and It will run almost all modern games at 60 FPS some yea you gotta turn down form ultra but even on high they beat the console versions
xPreatorianx
09-23-2011, 05:00 PM
Yea you got mixed Up by ports , I mean devloped 1st on 360 and than put on the ps3, and yes I do agree fully, that the devoploers are lazy, their are a few games, that I think to be better on the PS3 and it shows that they took the time more so with the game
one to come to mind is darksiders. I got it for the 360 it had alot of slowdown in combat on the ps3 this frame-rate issue is
"mostly" Gone
Where another great game like bayonetta was unplayable on the ps3 till they fixed it with a patch.
Bottom Line I believe fully that ps4 is coming alot sooner than people think, id say around late 2012-2013, the fact of the matter is they have to compete with Nintendo, while alot of people see the wiiu As I joke, I for one think the touch screen being use for things like inventory's is really a cleaver idea and It's a Nintendo product Id say its safe to say it will be very durable. So sony and mircosoft will want to push their console before they lose to much market share to Nintendo's product. As said, I am a semi Nintendo fanboy tho, I bought my wii launch day and it still works flawlessly. along with all of my other Nintendo systems in my game collection. So the fact that they make products that work well are going to finally come up with an HD console for me its a dream without the threat of my RROD xbox.
Dreamcast announced 1998
Playstation 2 Its development was announced in March 1999
Dreamcast released November 27, 1998
Playstation 2 released March 4, 2000
I understand this is a small sample on 2 consoles, But Dreamcast was set into market and was a great system with some flaws, but it pushed sony to release their console withing a year and a half if you look at all release dates their is a pattern With wii u to launch in 2012 mircoshit (I hate xbox sorry :/) 4 RROD consoles within 2 months will do that to you. $ony who I agree with you I wont be buying any "new" products from. will be forced to come up with something.
Quick Edit, And yes the PC dose it fucked hard, that being said games do look better on the pc if you have even a half decent one you can nearly build a gaming machine for at the cost of a 320gb ps3
The computer I built for my little brother was 430$ 1 year ago with the pricing on those parts in todays market id say would be around 350$
and It will run almost all modern games at 60 FPS some yea you gotta turn down form ultra but even on high they beat the console versions
You don't have to school me in computers m8. I'm a PC elitist by heart. I've been gaming on the PC since Wolfenstein days. I own a PC that can max any game on the market and at 60FPS. So ya, you don't have to tell me about PC.
Also DreamCast is a sega platform. So you can't use that... :P
But in all honesty I doubt Sony will rush out a console just to meet Nintendo head on. Nintendo have a proven track record of selling and selling big. So no matter what Sony does, Nintendo will probably make the best profits anyways. But ya I'm looking forward to the WiiU. I still gotta get me a Wii but I do plan on getting a WiiU as well.
On the topic of RROD - that's easily fixable. Just install the Hybrid clamps and remove the M$ approved Xclamps. Boom fixed. My Launch 360 has RROD twice. The first time was before I modded it and I got it repaired my MS. The second time was after I modded it and I simply did the Hybrid Clamp fix. It works fine now. I haven't had a single problem with it since I added those.
ATRfate
09-24-2011, 03:02 AM
The RROD's I had where back-before anything like that was available. I got a 360 off a buddy 3 days after launch, Smoke came out the back 10 hours after having it Sent it in 2-3 weeks later Got another From MS It broke within a week I sent it in than said well Ill get a buy a 2nd one if they keep breaking at least I can still play Gun and NFS the 2nd one RROD I took it straight back to best buy got all the money and got a gift card, Finally my original unit Came back from getting its 2nd repair I sold it on Craigslist around ~jan , But hey if you read thats only 3 RROD"S where is the forth when the HDMI units came out they claimed to have fixed the issue, I got another one, this one lasted 5 months and died that unit that was thrown away my launch wii and PS3 are still running just like the day I bought them so it was 3 units in 3 months
Quick edit Anything that comes on the Xbox "exclusive" will make its way to PC anyway, and for all those console "exlusives" well my ps3's will happily play them.