Thread: True Blue - New Dongle and news of support for existing users!

Originally Posted by dsenseb

Doesn't that 'special FSELF' make it a 'special iso'?

you need the dongle, you need the cfw, you need the 'special blank disks' and you need to burn the iso with the 'special fself'.

please correct me if i'm wrong...

No because an ISO is the entire game disc. FSELF is simply the game exectuble. Look at it this way. Say your downloading a PC iso from a site. What do you get? You get all of the game assets, content, etc, and the actual exe to launch it. But you need a cracked exe to launch the game. Now swap PC iso with PS3 iso, and PC exe with FSELF. So the only thing that is changed from a retail game is the actual exe to launch the game. That's it. ISO is the entire disc. Everything but the eboot is unchanged.

Originally Posted by ChipD

Apparently you didnt read the text in red that says "ISO's" to be released. So yes they are special iso's with special FSELFS in them.

OMFG your thick headed. I just explained that. They say "special ISO's" because they are referring to their pirated discs. The only thing special is the FSELFS. Which aren't even special to begin with.

Do you realize that they say that because they want you to believe you need their special discs, their special ISO, etc to even get the stuff working? When in fact you don't. All you need is an FSELF, and a CFW with the patch to read it. THAT'S IT!!!

Jesus you would think people would be able to tell when someone is obviously convince you to spend more money for absolutely no reason.

Originally Posted by Coop

Gary has already saud that we will be able to burn our own iso's.

I take this as meaning all the information to make these bd-rs work with the dongle is stored in the 'special' sectors of the bd-r they send you.

You then create an iso and burn it to the dvd-r and play it.

You yourself don't do anything other then burn an iso and obviously insert the dongle.

Small correction coop. But you do have the right idea and I'm glad you are at least paying attention and using your brain. Major props for that m8. I know it sounds sarcastic but I'm being genuine.

What you need is a blank BD-R and the FSELF. That's it. Well plus of course the dongle/CFW. hell if we create a CFW ourselves all we would need is the FSELF from the dev network (not theirs because theirs has their own encryption. Not to be confused with "keys.") and the patch to allow the FSELF to run.

The "special ISO" is just a round about way of saying "you need our stuff so we can make money off of you." That dude is buying into it. Why? IDK. I'm trying to save him money but he's being thick headed about it.

EDIT: The blank BD-R has the master disc key on the hidden sector. But as I said if we go our own way we can completely remove all the extra garbage. As JB2 primarily is just to grab a shit load of money from us. They require a dongle which isn't needed, and the master discs which aren't needed. It's because they wanna make extra money.

All we truly need is a CFW that has the FSELF patch and the FSELF themselves. That's it.

Originally Posted by gDrive

I gotta ROFLMFAO at the stupidity of this, and how did ANYONE come up with a dumb conclusion?

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So how does GaryOPA's news post magically translate into "special ISOs"?

Hell if I know m8. Probably because this team is doing everything in their power to market their BD-R's and pirated discs as something that is absolutely required. When it's not. It is if you go their route. But even then you still don't use a "special ISO." You use a "special BD-R(master disc with the key), and a "special EBOOT." Eboot being an FSELF. that's it.

Hell if Knew how to code for the PS3 and knew how to mess with FW. I'd do everything myself and prove exactly what we need. Anyone that knows how to do CFW's could get this done in probably 2 maybe 4 hours. Then all we would need is either their FSELF's which then need to be decrypted because they WANT you to get them from them, or FSELFS directly from DEV PSN.

Originally Posted by RikuKH3

xPreatorianx, do you understand what FSELF is?

SELF (Secured ELF) just a container where ELF (executable) is stored. FSELF (Fake SELF) is pretty much the same, just not encrypted/signed.
JB2 EBOOTs are FSELF, but that doesn't mean they originally where debug EBOOTs (FSELFs). Once you decrypt and extract ELF sections from SELF with 3.6+ keys you can rebuild it to FSELF easily (thats what they did).
And you no need patched CFW to run FSELFs, you can extract ELF and rebuild it to 3.55 signed SELF.

I personally support johnchan theory, he is right.

They aren't using any keys. I know exactly what FSELF's are. How are people coming up with different ideas? The people who reverse engineered this said they are using FSELFS. Don't you think that if they were signed with 3.6x/3.7x keys Math would have said something about?

You can support his theory all you want, but he's wrong to say the least. he has no idea on what he's talking about.

Those FSELF's were taken from PSN. The only thing they have for encryption is their own encryption. So you will require their stuff.

npdrm encrypted but labeled as fself

Ok so you don't need a patch. Wow I was wrong on that. But I wasn't wrong on everything else. These FSELF's don't have any keys attached to them. Also that team I guarantee didn't have the 3.6x/3.7x keys or they wouldn't use FSELFS to begin with. Why would they use FSELFS if they have the keys? Makes absolutely no sense.

Originally Posted by GraVoX

Exactly, this is for the most part speculation at the moment, no recognised sites or names have come out and said they've tested it yet.
We may as well be arguing religion right now.

I should make a thread in offtopic called "Outside" so when you guys start chesting up to each other you can say "Lets take this outside" then go there and argue

Um GaVox everything I have said is based on the reverse engineering information and past knowledge. So what I have said is far from speculation. It's fact.

It's funny how someone just pasted in What Rikku said but from the very beginning we knew they encrypted them. Which is why the dongle does crypto. It doesn't use any new keys though. ROFL.

I find it funny that a new member says math is completely wrong. (new in the context of this forum.) But in fact said person just reaffirmed what Math said. That they are using encryption. that's been known from the beginning. Which is why I said that we could go on our own route and just get FSELFS from DEV PSN and use a CFW.

EDIT: I mean hell Math said himself that the dongle does some auth and crypto stuff.

Right I'm off. I'm tired of repeating myself. It's really irritating the hell out of me. People aren't bothering to read and they are basically saying "your wrong" when in fact they are merely not reading, or simply reaffirming what people have already said.

Last EDIT: Pretty much to sum this up : we can go on our own route and just get FSELFS from DEV PSN and use a CFW. Pretty simple. Screw this dongle, screw that team, etc. They are just a bunch of greedy bastards to begin with. Not even the folks from the original PSJB are this damn greedy.