With regards to deank - I have had no problems with you in the past and I appreciate the help you provided to me at several points but I feel that you should refrain from making 'authoritative posts' about what something can and cannot do - especially when you admit yourself you don't own any such device and therefore cannot know for sure. Just quoting 'but it takes a fair amount of work to pull off' and leaving it at that - well, to look at one of the listed methods - payloads don't write themselves - they didn't write themselves on CEX either.
My post wasn't authoritative, but as you know very well - you can learn a lot from just reading specs and documents. I still don't have a DEX (although I'll try this week just for the sakes of it). I still believe that my post is true and in no way misleading. I hope that someone will go back to it in a month or two and will find it is true. I just tried to summarize the questions and answers and put all in one place and I don't think there is anything wrong with it.
About payloads - if you find a way to allow peek/poke to a DEX - let me know and I'll port the sc36 payload/functions to it.
You were aware of converted dex'es for a year now and I see your point, but don't drag me to this bull**** since I have nothing to do with it.
You've done a lot (although many don't know about it) and you know that I always enjoyed the stuff we worked on together.
No hard feelings - hopefully all will come to place.
Dean
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My post wasn't authoritative, but as you know very well - you can learn a lot from just reading specs and documents. I still don't have a DEX (although I'll try this week just for the sakes of it). I still believe that my post is true and in no way misleading. I hope that someone will go back to it in a month or two and will find it is true. I just tried to summarize the questions and answers and put all in one place and I don't think there is anything wrong with it.
About payloads - if you find a way to allow peek/poke to a DEX - let me know and I'll port the sc36 payload/functions to it.
You were aware of converted dex'es for a year now and I see your point, but don't drag me to this bull**** since I have nothing to do with it.
You've done a lot (although many don't know about it) and you know that I always enjoyed the stuff we worked on together.
No hard feelings - hopefully all will come to place.
Dean
Alright then - seems I misinterpreted the intent of your post - no hard feelings here either - just a misunderstanding I guess.
Well after reading all this drama in this thread, I got only one comment:
Besides I myself own an legit DEX machine, so all this drama means nothing to me. -- I can understand the hype that people go to regarding it, but it really is not worth it to the end-user to convert their machine, it is not the holy cookie that everyone is out to get.
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Not the official $ony one that I remember seeing, but seems pretty accurate from what I recall.
The point of this is, for the end user, not really what it does by itself. A DEX alone is not the holy grail of the scene, but what it's capable of with the proper packages, etc is, in fact, what everyone's been waiting for. A glitched 360 alone is worthless to the end user, all it does is allow the console to run unsigned code. That, in and of itself, is actually quite useless to the everyday user. However when you add stuff like xell, fsd, dashlaunch--now we're talking a whole other ballgame. If anyone tells you different, they are full of shit.
Like Square said, there's a reason why everyone in the inner circle wanted one and it wasn't to develop anything as Dean himself said that you don't need a DEX to develop. So what in the world were M and his cronies using theirs for? I'm not trying to start shit, just merely pointing something out. Like I said previously, it's common sense people.
Last edited by rednekcowboy; 07-11-2012 at 07:40 PM.
I wont say how long we had the PSN passphrase(s) for but guess what?? You didn't get it we did so if we chose not to release thats our decision not yours. If you wanted it that bad you should have got it yourself...
And do you really think the info on how its done should be shared publicly??????
Heres the deal you all may think im being an asshole for being so harsh on this release for converting but this release is gonna make it that much harder for us... I dont see anyone else steeping up besides the devs lurking in the shadows that all these people bitch about for not releasing stuff. You all have no idea how much time and research goes into this console and yet everyone want everything RIGHT NOW because they feel like we owe it to them... well guess what we dont owe you SHIT actually the way I see it you owe all the devs (a simple thanx will do) for all the time and energy and our own $$ we put into getting shit done. There is "maybe" 25 devs total in this scene all with different tallants and pretty much they are all in one place (except a few) sharing ideas, but this also comes at a price. if one dev doesn't want their work released then its NOT GETTING RELEASED/LEAKED simple as that... Also things aren't going to get released till theres a need for it or its fully finished. With PSN we had got word TB was well on their way to getting it so we decided to release so they couldn't profit on it, and yes we knew sony would change it damn fast and change the method how PSN is handeld. The entire goal has been lv0/bootldr to fully pwn the PS3 and it has been worked on for months on end already, a lot of the devs have full time jobs/school and things have been moving along but it takes time. Personally I dont see bootldr getting pwned any time soon (if ever).
On that note I'll leave you all to it...
Take whatever I say for what you want I really could care less, I'm not here to get praises or get ego boosted, we release stuff all the time without rebug slapped on it to stay well out of the spotlight. Actually most of the devs releasing BIG stuff stay well out of the spotlight and use others to release their stuff
Anyway enough of my wall of text enjoy your converts but dont expect a whole lot
Maybe in the future if were all lucky well see a downgrade solution on the 3000x
From what I have seen though is that possibilities don't mean shit if somebody isn't there to take advantage of them. We still aren't even utilising the full potential of CEX, and nobody seems willing or able to progress us any further. Converting to a DEX won't bring us any closer than before if people aren't motivated to put in the time and effort. Perhaps this will spark enough interest, but I doubt it.Once the end user finds that it is not ready yet, they'll forget about it, and as has been said, you don't need a DEX to develop. And I agree with Twin/Square redneckcowboy that it is obvious why the elites are mad. Funny seeing their anti-piracy arguments against dongles like Cobra and True Blue, all the while they're pirates. Also funny when they mention DRM, yet them witholding what they know is just as bad as any DRM, if not worse, since with DRM, we at least get to enjoy some of the benefits. And when they talked about people making "Moniez" (dongle makers and people selling Dex consoles on ebay, or just whatever excuse they used.), yet just a few months ago, they scammed the hell out of us and then constantly laughed about how eager people were to bend over for them, yet they had no intention of delivering on those "donations".
I really don't contribute much to the scene in terms of knowledge. So I try to support the scene through other means e.g. (cash)
I have 3 Ps3's ....... 2 on CFW and 1 on OFW.... I own TB & Cobra dongles.
As you can see I have no allegiance to any side:
I support Sony
I support the Devs
I support the leechers
But I would just like to know if this Cex to Dex method is so useless to the end user, then Why are so many highly regarded members of the forum spending so much time arguing about it? ... Seems a little weird to me.
Oh well!..... I'll just go back on my fence and observe what's going to happen, and see who was really talking the most BS about Cex - Dex conversion and whether it's useful or not!
Twinaphex aka square you crack me up
I wont say how long we had the PSN passphrase(s) for but guess what?? You didn't get it we did so if we chose not to release thats our decision not yours. If you wanted it that bad you should have got it yourself...
And do you really think the info on how its done should be shared publicly??????
You seem to think I care about PSN or that I 'wanted the method', which seems to indicate to me you did not read my explanatory post on ps3hax well. I haven't even played a single PS3 game in well over two years now - PSN holds zero interest to me, the kids that occupy it I have zero interest to 'converse with' - or to 'vent at' more appropriately - I have zero desire to 'fake buy' anything on there).
I also don't care what you or anyone else deems fit to be released 'publicly' - following that logic you might as well release nothing publicly since anything you might obtain might give you some leverage over others, or anything you do reveal might be getting 'patched'. In the end it's still about one thing - personal perusal first, 'scene' second.
The ONLY thing that matters to me - and the only reason I brought it up - is that this 'PSN passphrase release' was still in the end a 'useless breadcrumb' after you had already digested the main sandwich - a scrap from the table of the master - to placate the dogs (for a short while).
So which scrap from the master's table is the 'scene' going to get next? And how can that be considered a 'scene' when the 'users' of that scene get treated as dogs? A scene this is not. This is not 'information wants to be free' - this is 'information wants to be free IF WE DECIDE IT SHOULD BE SO'. Fuck that - that's not the hacker ethos, that's some hipster shit right there. You should re-read the hacker manifestos sometime.
I know it is quite offtopic but what happened to the rumor that it is possible to use a
DECR-1000A with modified southbridge firmware for debugging the whole chain of trust?
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