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    Quote Originally Posted by propered View Post
    So will it be possible to downgrade without dongles IF you can update to a DEX above or equal to the version you are currently on ie without dongle from 4.10
    ehh

    Quote Originally Posted by TomatOsaUce View Post
    You're probably right.. not like Batman disc was done with a DEX..
    Speaking of Batman.. ever seen the secret TB menu?
    Master, you should actually jump on Skype.. you might learn something new.
    Sorry for the double post.
    But it wasn't derived much from a dex console. A self came from a dex console.
    Last edited by master737373; 07-09-2012 at 09:57 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by givesashiit View Post
    So why is everyone angry? Information shoould be free. And now there is more information out then yesterday. This means it is a gain.
    Thanks for this leak.
    That's my thoughts as well.. devs are coding on 3.55 now
    So IF Sony patched this then it won't really affect anyone.
    The only people it would affect are the ones selling converted machines
    Surely they don't deserve pity?

    It may not be useful to the end user but I can think of a couple guys
    who would love to use some of the features this provides

    Edit: master.. yeah got re-schooled on that privately.. my apologies!
    They can be decrypted on console though.. cex... dex to if it does things the same

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    It's most likely useless like said many people on the net !! wake up guys, ever if this could lead to a "full" CEX 2 DEX conversion it won't help you to get decrypted eboots, homebrews or backups !!
    No one is sure that CFW homebrews work on DEX machines !! it's just rumors !
    Than dreaming of backups or backup loader is a very bad bullshit !!
    You need to adda many patchs to the firmware = you need to decrypt such firmware than to sign-it with proper keys = you still need public & private keys !!

    The only thing that could help the scene to hack new 3.6+ OFW & 3.6+ games is getting the new public keys just like team E3 said !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomatOsaUce View Post
    That's my thoughts as well.. devs are coding on 3.55 now
    So IF Sony patched this then it won't really affect anyone.
    The only people it would affect are the ones selling converted machines
    Surely they don't deserve pity?

    It may not be useful to the end user but I can think of a couple guys
    who would love to use some of the features this provides
    Yeah, of course, the features are nice for the devs who can actually benefit from it. Just many people who aren't capable of using it are going to try to convert to a dex console hoping to get on psn (can't) and use their homebrew (which they can). Plus the brick rate is extremely high.

    Quote Originally Posted by the-green View Post
    No one is sure that CFW homebrews work on DEX machines !! it's just rumors !
    Than dreaming of backups or backup loader is a very bad bullshit !!
    You can run homebrew on a dex console, you can't do much with a backup manager because you still don't have the peek&poke syscalls.
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    Its the same as most stuff though.. if people read the bolded text
    they will see that psn is a no go and a flasher is recommended..

    Surely they wouldn't want it for psn when standard cfw can already do it.
    If/when Sony get off their asses and patch it then it will have been shouted out
    a million times, this is useless for that

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    Question.
    What's to stop someone upgrading to debug firmware and then using the CFW PSN patch? Surely that could work/be adapted to work?

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    Ok ok ok...... I get the message about what a dex can't do, you've made that pretty dam clear. But tell the masses what a dex can do, so we're clear on that point to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eboots View Post
    Ok ok ok...... I get the message about what a dex can't do, you've made that pretty dam clear. But tell the masses what a dex can do, so we're clear on that point to.
    From Pockets69 at Hax:

    Can we play homebrew with this on every firmware?
    Yes as long as the hombrew is fake signed, use the tools from the SDK to do it.

    Can we play game (backups) with this?
    Yes you can play all 3.55 backups and prior.

    Can we play 3.60+ game (backups) with this?
    Yes IF you are to decrypt 3.60+ selfs, so NO, only if you get your hands on the decrypted eboots (thats how tb works).

    Can we play 3.60+ (originals)?
    yes just update and play.

    Can we get into debugger mode, and use the debug options?
    yes

    Can you connect to psn (or any other network prod-q etc)?
    No

    Can you downgrade without a flasher?
    Yes to the limit of the factory firmware.
    Last edited by pete_uk; 07-09-2012 at 10:48 AM. Reason: Formating

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete_uk View Post
    From Pockets69 at Hax
    Pockets69 at Hax is no expert.
    I love playing with my dongle.

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    Although he is wrong about that:

    Can we play game (backups) with this?
    Yes you can play all 3.55 backups and prior.
    ... he is right for the rest of the stuff.

    And I mean 'wrong' because you can't play these backups the usual way, but - yes - then you will need a partitioned USB, sony tools and unself+make_fself for each <=3.55 eboot.bin/self/sprx, dedicated USB HDD (you can't use it for anything else) and up to 4 games at once.

    As I posted few months ago - I was offered to convert my cex to dex (for some $$$) and I never took that road. The real benefit for users is the option to play 3.56+ original discs on dex 4.10 and then revert back to 3.55 at any time. I don't see any other use for gamers.
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