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    ps3 Just how bad are Sony's finances right now?

    'The Ten Year Decline of Sony'

    Take a look at this nice article explaining the past 10 years of Sony and the financial side of things...


    This pretty interesting article by NotEnoughShaders.com, gives us an insight of the past 10 years of Sony and just how bad are the company's finances.

    This one compares the market cap and liabilities of some of the biggest companies with Sony. It looks like Sony has more liabilities than EA, Microsoft, Apple and Google combined!

    Here are some highlights from it:

    Below is a chart of Sony’s market cap value between September 2002 through September 7th, 2012.

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    - Sony’s Market Cap Value on September 2000: $100 billion (Source: Bloomberg)

    - Sony’s Market Cap Value on December 2007: $54 billion (Source: ycharts.com)

    - Sony’s Market Cap Value on December 12, 2011: $18 billion (Source: Bloomberg)

    Now lets skip to the most recent day that the stock market opened on.

    - Sony’s Market Cap Value on September 7th, 2012: $11.69 billion (Marketwatch/Wall Street Journal)

    - Nintendo’s Market Cap Value on September 7th, 2012: $15.9 billion (Marketwatch/Wall Street Journal)

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    How bad are Sony’s Total Liabilities and Debt?

    - Total Liabilities as of June 2012:

    Total liabilities are the total amount of all financial obligations (short term and long term) of a company. This includes all creditor claims on company assets.

    Electronic Arts Total Liabilities: $2.27 Billion
    Google’s Total Liabilities: $21.33 Billion
    Apple’s Total Liabilities: $51.15 Billion
    Microsoft’s Total Liabilities: $54.91 Billion
    Sony’s Total Liabilities: $135.61 Billion

    Sony has more total liabilities than Microsoft, Apple, Google, and Electronic Arts combined.

    - Total Assets as of June 2012:

    Total assets include cash in the bank, property, accounts receivable (money owed to the company), equipment, and inventory.

    Google’s Total Assets: $86.05 Billion
    Apple’s Total Assets: $162.90 Billion
    Microsoft’s Total Assets: $121.27 Billion
    Sony’s Total Assets: $166.22 Billion

    Compare Apple’s total assets ($162.90 billion) to Apple’s total liabilities ($51.15 billion).

    Compare Microsoft’s total assets ($121.27 billion) to Microsoft’s total liabilities ($54.91 billion).

    Now compare Sony’s total assets ($166.22 billion) to Sony’s total liabilities ($135.61 billion).

    Since total assets include everything that Sony owns (cash, buildings, divisions, intellectual property, etc.)… Sony would have to sell over 80 percent of their total assets (Total Assets = Every single thing Sony owns including cash) just to pay off their total liabilities.

    If you combined the June 2012 total liabilities of Microsoft ($54.91 billion), Apple ($51.15B), Google ($21.33 billion), and Electronic Arts ($2.27 Billion), that would equal to $129.66 billion in liabilities. Sony would STILL have $5.95 billion more in total liabilities than Microsoft, Apple, Google, and Electronic Arts combined. It really paints a picture of just how out of control Sony’s total liabilities have become.
    Not looking good for Sony right now, don't you agree? You can check out the full article on the link below!

    NEWS SOURCE #1: The ten-year decline of Sony (via) NotEnoughShaders
    NEWS SOURCE #2: Forum Thread #490564 (via) NeoGAF

    Our thanks to 'Gauss' for this news item!

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    Well maybe I can relate to that a little bit reason why Sony sales were so high in 2000 because of the PS2. Piracy wasn't too big and the console let alone the games weren't pricey how they are now. I think it was $250 for a Ps2 when it 1st came out or just 200.

    Sony just overprice their products "great products" but overpriced when it comes to the middle class...Which is why they are down in sales also their customer service stinks.

    But my main guess will be the overpricing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goku1992 View Post
    Well maybe I can relate to that a little bit reason why Sony sales were so high in 2000 because of the PS2. Piracy wasn't too big and the console let alone the games weren't pricey how they are now. I think it was $250 for a Ps2 when it 1st came out or just 200.

    Sony just overprice their products "great products" but overpriced when it comes to the middle class...Which is why they are down in sales also their customer service stinks.

    But my main guess will be the overpricing
    The PS3 retailed for 300 USD originally. As for their finances i think the main problem with Sony the last decade is that they stretched themselves too thin and banked on people buying their stuff because of the Sony brand. Unfortunately for them the quality of their products has declined as a whole and they have had a lot more competition in various parts of the electronics business lately.

    I think another aspect to this might be the cost of the format war. Sony went far out of their way to force Blu Ray down our throats as the dominanat HD disc format. Unfortunately for them most people were more than satisfied with their DVDs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samagon View Post
    The PS3 retailed for 300 USD originally. As for their finances i think the main problem with Sony the last decade is that they stretched themselves too thin and banked on people buying their stuff because of the Sony brand. Unfortunately for them the quality of their products has declined as a whole and they have had a lot more competition in various parts of the electronics business lately.

    I think another aspect to this might be the cost of the format war. Sony went far out of their way to force Blu Ray down our throats as the dominanat HD disc format. Unfortunately for them most people were more than satisfied with their DVDs.

    no it didnt ,it was alot more than that, between $499 -$599

    and yeah,its all chinese slave labor foxxconn crap ,most consumer electronics are
    my sony vaio laptop keyboard just shit the bed like 4 days ago(using onscreen keyboard,AAAARRRHHH) ,Like $50 for a replacement
    half the keys stop working ,its not even 2 years old ,its an i3 350 ,has a blu ray and wireless display,so its fairly new
    i removed keyboard cleaned put it back in,still dont work ,what a POS
    and i have taken exceptional care of it too , i have never had a problem with a laptop keyboard before in my life
    i got old dell laptops running win98 still workfine (though dell is foxxconn too now inciddntaly)

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    Maybe if they stopped worrying so much about the security of their consoles (coz the console is, sooner or later, going to get hacked again), they would've save more money, for starters. Just sayin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samagon View Post
    The PS3 retailed for 300 USD originally.
    What 3 or 4 years after it launched?

    The reason for Sony's financial demise is simple. They don't listen to their customers, clients or partners. Sometimes when you dance to your own tune, it works for you and sometimes it doesn't. After completely ignoring their customers for the last several years, it's finally starting to hit them where it counts.

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    Is this report about the gaming division of Sony? Or Sony as a whole?! I doubt that Nintendo worth more than Sony....

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    Typical, seeing as how their products got shittier along the time.


 

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