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Hope people wont get their hope up too high... I can see in the near future Sony start banning consoles for this.
I personally think that it was the wrong time to reveal anything because now by the time this thing do get's releases Sony would of
A. sued the guys already like they did PSJailbreak team (2010)
B. prepared for an update that would negate this
Once again this isn't Microsoft this is Sony if people think that they can buy this and play online and backups and online happily ever after gosh.... they are more naive than I thought
Hope people wont get their hope up too high... I can see in the near future Sony start banning consoles for this.
I personally think that it was the wrong time to reveal anything because now by the time this thing do get's releases Sony would of
A. sued the guys already like they did PSJailbreak team (2010)
B. prepared for an update that would negate this
Once again this isn't Microsoft this is Sony if people think that they can buy this and play online and backups and online happily ever after gosh.... they are more naive than I thought
Youre more naive than I think you are if you think this can be blocked or detected by Sony!
If homebrew is made to work in ISO format that is the only way. However if the ID of a retail game is used then its all good.
There is NO way Sony can patch this out without totally disabling the Bluray drive, they cannot tell that it is not a Bluray drive! Thats the point of the hack, to perfectly simulate the optical drives communications back to the motherboard.
It is not detectable by Sony because the info being sent back into the motherboard is 100% accurate.
Sure enough they could maybe see that this person hasnt been online in 2 yrs & now is suddenly playing his 50+ 'legally owned games'
They then see everything your PS3 has been doing for the past 2 yrs and ban you for all the other stuff youve done.. but thats not this hack being detectable thats Sony shitting themselves and potentially banning the wrong people.. so I seriously doubt they would do that
I can't speak for others, but I have no problems with CFW. However, I also have no use for it. There is barely any homebrew for the PS3 and out of it all only 4-5 apps are commonly used and at the top are Showtime and MultiMan. Keep what I said about Multiman in your head for just a minute. A lot of people use thier PS3 with Showtime and streaming apps, but since I have a HTPC I have no use for the PS3 or it's shitty multimedia apps.
I don't think you have any business being in a console modding scene if you can't open your console. Flashing CFW or plugging in a Dongle doesn't count - it's easy and my Grandmother can do it.
Piracy goes hand-in-hand with modding a video game console and 99% of the people who use CFW and will use this device are pirates (be it music, tv shows, movies, emulator roms or ps1/ps2/ps3 games) - they're pirates. Contrast how many people use Multiman compared to the other homebrew apps and you've got yourself an answer. Recently it's common to hide behind bullshit instead of admit you're pirate, but the fact you're on a scene modding site discussing devices and software used to pirate games wouldn't help your court case. I have no such guilty conscience.
I never needed an excuse to pirate. But I have seen others need one. End the end though I do help the companies either by buying games I do feel are worth spending money on or by word of mouth. I often find it funny how much big corporations try to prove piracy hurts business and in the end prove the exact opposite, that pirates buy more than non-pirates. One thing I will tell you though, piracy should never be about aggression or putting someone down. I don't pirate out of passion, but pragmatism. Of course it's impossible to hurt somebody by pirating, piracy is not theft. Those who need to blame somebody as their reason to pirate are people who secretly feel guilty for something that does no harm. Piracy should be about building up. Helping others. It may not be as altruistic on it's own as being open source.
It may be true that the ps3 is very poor in it's selection of homebrew. I use mainly vba and snes9x with maybe a bit of showtime for videos the dash won't play. Now that I have my computer, they aren't as useful, but still I would prefer not to lose them. For the most part, newer games haven't been worth losing that. I have an xbox and a pc, with the exception of maybe one or two games exclusive to the ps3 I am covered. PC scene and Linux scene has gotten me spoiled.
Originally Posted by Goku1992
Hope people wont get their hope up too high... I can see in the near future Sony start banning consoles for this.
I personally think that it was the wrong time to reveal anything because now by the time this thing do get's releases Sony would of
A. sued the guys already like they did PSJailbreak team (2010)
B. prepared for an update that would negate this
Once again this isn't Microsoft this is Sony if people think that they can buy this and play online and backups and online happily ever after gosh.... they are more naive than I thought
I agree, it's too unknown. Though from what I hear, this team is good for support. But they can't quite support it if Sony sues them and if support goes away then Sony can patch it, with the team intact they can just patch their product again and again until Sony gives up. Good support goes along way. Still, like I said before, if somebody is getting this mainly for psn then they risk being disappointed sooner or later. Maybe Sony's efforts will become wasted, but between patches, psn may become unavailable for some. And if they start banning then psn is lost for good until a different exploit is found, which would probably require cfw.
One thing that maybe a let down, is that all the actual cracked psn games / patched cfw3.55 games, will not work, once we made the step to go 3.55+OFW to use this device.
But, this is a must have to play the latest games to be released (GTA V or Tomb Raider, for example), or... canīt really this be patched by Sony?...
@TomatOsaUce
Sony always have the upper hand and always will. But think about this how many people are really going to buy this? And yet those are the same people who were complaining about TB. Now don't get me wrong this is more beneficial than TB ever was but are people still going to pay for something that cost nearly $100? No.... and you know that they are going to wait for a free solution (Like they always do) I personally think that the device is good. But Sony will obviously ban consoles "they can detect a pirated video game" The team now actually "gave" Sony to look into for the future.
All I am saying is yes this device is very good but the majority of people will not buy it. Not because the device isnt good because I think it's about damn time a device came to the Ps3 scene. But for the majority of people want everything for free... they will wait for a free solution
I understand the whole point about this being detectable, but in reality, if you just be safe online you won't get caught. I've had my Wasabi 360 online for the longest time, even on the Beta dashboard which isn't "wasabi approved", yet I still haven't gotten a ban. I am just careful when I make my backups I verify them with abgx360. And yes if Microsoft catches you they will ban you, just like the people who didn't patch their iso's properly.
honestly i doubt we will see MS style ban waves,i think a cfw w/psn would be more likely to make sony bring down the ban hammer ,i think they are more concerned with cheating ,which wont be possible, i doubt they will care about the tiny base of users of this to care about bans ,the console is getting up there in age too ,if they were going to do it they would have allready,especially if it can onlyy be used on 3.55 coonsoles to dump br key
The underground console homebrew scenes has ALWAYS been about piracy 100.100% of the time, and I don't see anything wrong with that - so everybody can shut the fuck up about it not being the case.
You seem to have a major superiority complex, but non the less I have to agree with the parts that I can comprehend of your post. A no bullshit approach is also refreshing to read in this dismal scene.
Originally Posted by Goku1992
but are people still going to pay for something that cost nearly $100? No....
Really? A new PS3 Game in the USA is $60 - a single game. Think about that.
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honestly i doubt we will see MS style ban waves,i think a cfw w/psn would be more likely to make sony bring down the ban hammer ,i think they are more concerned with cheating ,which wont be possible, i doubt they will care about the tiny base of users of this to care about bans ,the console is getting up there in age too ,if they were going to do it they have allready,especially if it can onlyy be used on 3.55 coonsoles to dump br key
Yea, and think of ALL the people who are going to get their key and just update without thinking that they are losing cfw *sarcasm off*
Originally Posted by wrathchild
